Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Started by NotAllThatEvil633 pages

So what exactly us beerus's job? How will fighting a universal threat get him in trouble?

So looks like Goku was tweaking when he said Broly is probably stronger than Beerus. And the god of destruction brawl in the manga ToP doesn”t really make sense anymore.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
So what exactly us beerus's job? How will fighting a universal threat get him in trouble?
I took it to mean that Beerus thought he might get shit from the other GoDs for helping out the mortals again.

Because yeah... Eliminating a universal threat in and of itself is most definitely the exact kind of thing he *should* be doing.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
So looks like Goku was tweaking when he said Broly is probably stronger than Beerus. And the god of destruction brawl in the manga ToP doesn”t really make sense anymore.
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If Beerus > Moro (which absolutely seemed to be the authorial intent here), then really no claims made about his power up to this point make sense. He's FAR stronger than has ever been implied before.

Originally posted by Galan007
The God ki within Oob >>> the God ki of everyone else on earth combined. Jfc.
So does this validate the EOZ issues iyo?

Originally posted by Mendax
So does this validate the EOZ issues iyo?
Absolutely.

The combined ki of Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo, and all the other Z Fighters was enough to take Goku from base to SSB. The God ki of Oob alone took Goku from base to MUI+.

Given this revelation, it now makes a lot more sense for EoZ Goku to think of Oob as a potential rival after being trained... Oob's latent God ki is massive.

Stronger than buy even...
How?

Oob raw power with complete unawareness as a kid is already on MUI Goku level. His real raw power level far and far surpasses current MUI Goku. But he is a kid, he can't use right now, only portion of his energy. It's perfect introduction to the EoZ when Goku took him as a student.

Originally posted by Inedian
Oob raw power with complete unawareness as a kid is already on MUI Goku level. His real raw power level far and far surpasses current MUI Goku. But he is a kid, he can't use right now, only portion of his energy. It's perfect introduction to the EoZ when Goku took him as a student.

Uh no, its enough for Goku to reach MUI Level from SSB level.

Originally posted by Inedian
Oob raw power with complete unawareness as a kid is already on MUI Goku level. His real raw power level far and far surpasses current MUI Goku. But he is a kid, he can't use right now, only portion of his energy. It's perfect introduction to the EoZ when Goku took him as a student.
Pretty much.

And aside from that, Oob only possesses the remaining God ki that DaiKaioshin still had before he split into evil/pure Boo... Which is astounding when you then consider that DaiKaioshin was stated to have given up "most of" his godly power when he originally sealed Moro away:
https://i.imgur.com/5ZuZc9k.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5qxbxG5.jpg

IOW, Oob essentially just has a small fraction of DaiKaioshin's 'complete' God ki, yet he's still THAT powerful... So a "full power" DaiKaioshin(ie. with ALL of his god ki intact) was truly on a completely different level.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Uh no, its enough for Goku to reach MUI Level from SSB level.
Moro had drained Goku back into his base form when Oob's ki was used to skyrocket him to MUI+ levels.

Did he? ok

Originally posted by Galan007
Pretty much.

And aside from that, Oob only possesses the remaining God ki that DaiKaioshin still had before he split into evil/pure Boo... Which is astounding when you then consider that DaiKaioshin was stated to have given up "most of" his godly power when he originally sealed Moro away:
https://i.imgur.com/5ZuZc9k.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5qxbxG5.jpg

IOW, Oob essentially just has a small fraction of DaiKaioshin's 'complete' God ki, yet he's still THAT powerful... So a "full power" DaiKaioshin(ie. with ALL of his god ki intact) was truly on a completely different level.

Yup exactly. And that seal was really demanding. Originally, he could destroy Moro anytime he wanted.

So if being off the earth keeps Moro from draining you, and Vegeta was able to use spirit fission with his blasts, why was he standing on the ground.....

Because vegeta is an idiot. He even commented he was getting drained faster than he could fission

I bet Goten and Trunks are gonna be upset to realize they have been fighting without them.

Originally posted by Galan007
Nah, he "properly" shattered the crystal, which destroyed Moro.

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Also, this chapter glimpsed Oob's potential:


The God ki within Oob >>> the God ki of everyone else on earth combined. Jfc.

Wait, isnt Oob a reincarnation of Kid Buu and if the answer is yes and Kid Buu had all of this power within him, how in the world did Goku at standard Super Saiyan 2/3 levels even challenge him? Heck, the spirit bomb should be nothing to him at those levels as well.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait, isnt Oob a reincarnation of Kid Buu and if the answer is yes and Kid Buu had all of this power within him, how in the world did Goku at standard Super Saiyan 2/3 levels even challenge him? Heck, the spirit bomb should be nothing to him at those levels as well.

Well it can always be retconned with an excuse that he was just fighting like a primitive being, on instinct and was nothing more than a child who was a bully.

Originally posted by Galan007
The God ki within Oob >>> the God ki of everyone else on earth combined. Jfc.

You mean, just ki in general of the Z fighters. But most of those were still drained of energy also. Vegeta didn't even go out of ssjb when he lent his power to the orb, which means he can't have gave too much? It's weird..

Cause only 3 people have any god ki, and that is Dende, Vegeta, and Gokou, besides Uub.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait, isnt Oob a reincarnation of Kid Buu and if the answer is yes and Kid Buu had all of this power within him, how in the world did Goku at standard Super Saiyan 2/3 levels even challenge him? Heck, the spirit bomb should be nothing to him at those levels as well.
Because Pure Boo couldn't actually utilize the God ki within himself to any noteworthy extent. Same with current Oob, for that matter.

Originally posted by Galan007
And yeah, the implication is that Beerus could have stepped in and destroyed Moro himself, with ease... But stopped because the GP summoned him:

It seems more like it was implied that Beerus was going to join the others in taking down Moro (not that he was going to do it himself) and that they had to hurry (not that it meant that it will be quick).