Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Personally, I think Beerus would have just stepped in and destroyed the gem himself(which still seemed to require "divine" MUI+ power, according to Whis.)

At that point Goku hadn't yet been told how to defeat/kill Moro and was basically worthless against him... Not really sure how much 'help' he would have even been at that point. /shrug

It's really simple... Beerus saw Z warriors couldn't win this (it was impossible for them to do anything in that point) and he would have to finish it and it was clear that he would do it easily. No need to overthink this. And it's still obvious no one must see and know that he cares for Earth and Z team and that in reality Beerus has a soft heart.

Now the real question is... Can Vegeta actually split apart fusions? Cauae he didn't do it to Moro and Earth.

I feel like he could split apart Potara/Metamoran fusions. But apparently he cannot use that ability on a planetary scale.

One thing I noticed is that Shin was strangely absent from this entire arc. I believe this is the first arc of DBS that he hasn't been shown in at all. Weird.

But it made me wonder; If Shin and Grand Supreme Kai met, how do you think that conversation would go? Would GSK now acknowledge Shin as his superior iyo?

I imagine that DaiKaioshin would be disappointed with Shin's astounding incompetence as a "deity"(the dude is straight up garbage tier), but at the same time being grateful that he's somehow managed to not get the universe erased.

And no, if anything Shin would readily bow down before DaiKaioshin, imo. Probably ask him if he wants the job back.

I don't remember about in the anime, but without Shin, Future Trunks would be dead.

Yeah, in Trunks' timeline, Goku and Vegeta weren't around to randomly battle and release Boo... So Trunks and Shin just had Dabura to deal with as the 'big bad'.

But Shin in the mainstream timeline has just been an all around embarrassment.

Pretty dumb he got that much of a boost from a character who’s power could barely contain normal Moro. I feel like they ignored the fact that Vegeta had divine power too.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, in Trunks' timeline, Goku and Vegeta weren't around to randomly battle and release Boo... So Trunks and Shin just had Dabura to deal with as the 'big bad'.

But Shin in the mainstream timeline has just been an all around embarrassment.

Originally posted by Galan007
Absolutely.

The combined ki of Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo, and all the other Z Fighters was enough to take Goku from base to SSB. The God ki of Oob alone took Goku from base to MUI+.

Given this revelation, it now makes a lot more sense for EoZ Goku to think of Oob as a potential rival after being trained... Oob's latent God ki is massive.

Here is my question. Did it take him beyond MUI? or did he just master it completely. Didnt think MUI was about "amount of raw power"

Any explanation of Goku's heart disease? When and where was infected?

Originally posted by Kento
No I mean, mainstream Shin. After Goku and Vegeta left Trunk to fight Black and Zamasu. Shin left and went to see Gowasu and they saved Trunks and Mai right before Trunks was killed.

Originally posted by deft
Any explanation of Goku's heart disease? When and where was infected?

So, it's been about 6 or 7 years since Buu saga ended in Super.. Krillin is a cop, Gokou has been attacked by bandits...

So Porunga is just bad at granting wishes? Or is that as long as it takes for good people to go bad? Cause none of the robbers or bandits we see are teenagers so they didn't grow up to be bad, they had to turn bad as adults.

Originally posted by Galan007
Not sure what you're asking?

How did Goku catch the heart disease?

By being a mortal who can catch diseases?

Originally posted by Kento
So, it's been about 6 or 7 years since Buu saga ended in Super.. Krillin is a cop, Gokou has been attacked by bandits...

So Porunga is just bad at granting wishes? Or is that as long as it takes for good people to go bad? Cause none of the robbers or bandits we see are teenagers so they didn't grow up to be bad, they had to turn bad as adults.

Porunga doesn't like to cancel people

Is there a difference between divine and god power? Seem divine is MUI related.

Whis also makes a comment about Goku now having Divine Power and that he can stop Moro if he has faith in his strength.

They should re-due GT as whole imo. Would be awesome to see MUI blended in with SSJ4. They could basically say SSJ4 is a mastered version of what Broly used.