Originally posted by KentoValid but at the same time Whis tells Goku he has an noob level of UI. But I agree these statements are strange since there are level of UI it seems. Making one not unbeatable until perfectly mastering it. And even then you can be beaten by somebody who has mastered to a higher degree.
Merus told Gokou that he could defeat anybody if he unlocked UI. But, statements like that don't matter in a shounen anime, because each threat will always be strong enough to give Gokou and Vegeta a fight. Otherwise, the series ends. Cause they will never really focus on the others to defeat a big bad.
I think Merus' statement was specific to that context. Obviously beings existed who could beat Goku but none of them wanted to at the time. Merus didn't know that Moro would power up again.
Also, based on Whis' wording, I think he's actually saying Goku's skill with UI is equal to Merus' but that he has room to grow further.
Since the start of Whis' statement is that he is superior to Merus, not that Merus is superior to Goku, he seems to be implying that the "room to grow" starts from Merus-level.
Goku is at Merus' level of skill anyway based on the fact he pulled off the same crystal-smashing technique, the only difference being the scale of power (Moro-73 vs planet-Moro). Smashing 73's crystal was visibly difficult for Merus despite the fact he tapped into his angel power and was erased for it.
The difference between raw power and UI skill also helps explain why Whis said that Vegeta is more powerful than Merus; Merus' raw power is below the saiyans.
Originally posted by MendaxYes. So far the people who used dust one are:
So are there 2 kinds of hakai attacks then?One that turns the target into dust, and another type that wipes out the target completely?
Goku (on Zamas and also on a rock covering Moro)
Beerus (on Zamas)
Belmod (on some concubine)
Granolah (on a rock)
(maybe others I'm forgetting it's pretty common now)
And for exploding one:
Beerus
Granolah (on a mountain)
Vegeta (on a pebble)
Can Saiyans breathe in space?
Profile photo for Rui Silva
Rui Silva
Answered May 8, 2020
Does God Ki give you access to breath in space?
Does God Ki give you access to breath in space?It should have. And you can clearly see that where Goku and Beerus were fighting was in the upper atmosphere of the planet. Meaning Goku would've had zero oxygen there.
Still he kept on fighting.
It could've even been explained as seeing the SSG form granted healing capabilities, then Goku breathing in space was simply the body converting Ki into Oxygen.
But as we saw after Beerus, Saiyajins even with god Ki they can't survive in the vacuum of space.
When Frieza destroys the Earth, it was Whis barrier that kept everyone in the area alive.
But Vegeta died all the same.
Yes, Vegeta should've survived all the same by simply creating a Ki sphere which would contain enough oxygen for him to seek out Whis.
Even when Goku goes to retrieve the crystal Bulma needed to build another time machine, he needs to wear a suit because of the heat and lack of oxygen.
So it is more than clear that Saiyajins, even in their god forms, they can't survive in the vacuum of space.
Viljami Niemi
Profile photo for David Franco
Profile photo for David Franco
David Franco
23h ago
Huh, you'd think their invulnerbility would protect them from temperature extremes and vacuum, at the least.Profile photo for Rui Silva
Rui Silva
23h ago
Problem is that they clearly don't possess even that. And by that I mean invulnerability.They are quite vulnerable. Moro showed how much they are vulbe and even weak to magic.
Maybe that's why Toriyama decided that Moro power absorption had to be retconned and why he never used other kinds of magic. After all Moro was introduced as being this powerful magic user, and he only had a few tricks up his sleeve.
And funny enough Moro could survive in the vacuum of space while Saiyajin still can't do it.
CD's usual shit aside, Toriyama is really autistic with the Saiyans becoming George Floyd in space. The God power would have been a simple solution to this and still can be but he won't allow it.
It's also a solution to the monotonous backdrops and lack of collateral damage. Instead of another mountain area it could be a big asteroid field. And if Toyo is feeling really up to it he could just keep knocking them to different planets with vastly different looking battlefields to change up the scene. Imagine the last battle in an arc starts in space with a big sun in the background instead of Namek or mountains. Someone gets punched through the planet and slams into a moon or blows up one. It allows more to be done in a fight without specifically focusing on choreography and how it flows from one attack to another.
It won't happen but it would change things up a bit without too much contradictions.
I don't care about potential feats but I do want more interesting locations and DB has pretty much exhausted what can be done under the limitations.
Spoilers for chapter 71: