Galan007
|Quantum Observer|
Originally posted by Kento
Wasn't the Beerus 70% power only used in the movie? I don't remember if it's said in the anime, but it's not said in the manga at all. If it's not said in the anime, then that sliding scale of power doesn't exist. Because Jiren and UI Gokou can be > Beerus in the anime and it not matter when UI isn't a thing Gokou can consciously do and the show is over.But the anime, the movie, and the manga all have very different levels of power.
While I can agree that the manga and anime may as well be entirely separate continuities at this point, Beerus is still on a ridiculous sliding power scale in the manga, imo.
As of the ToP, Jiren was still stated to be stronger than Belmond. Granted, Beerus is clearly at the top of the GoD totem pole in the manga, but we don't actually know how large the gap between he and Belmond was intended to be in the manga, because Belmond feigned being incapacitated towards the end. I think Beerus WAS originally intended to be stronger, but not insurmountably so.
*So at the time, you probably could have deduced something like: Beerus ~/> Jiren > Belmond.
...And by the end of the saga, MUI Goku was on par with Jiren.
*So at the time, you probably could have deduced something like: Beerus ~ n00b-MUI Goku ~/> Jiren > Belmond.
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As of the Broly film(which I do believe aligns with manga canon), Goku believed that Broly was ~/> Beerus. This is also backed by promotional material for the film.
*So at the time, you probably could have deduced something like: Broly ~/> Beerus ~ n00b-MUI Goku ~/> Jiren > Belmond.
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As of the Moro saga, Goku stated that Moro-73 was the most powerful being that he had fought up to that point.
*So at the time, you probably could have deduced something like: current MUI Goku >>> Moro-73 > Broly ~/> Beerus ~ n00b-MUI Goku ~/> Jiren > Belmond.
...Yet by the end of the saga, Beerus was about to step in an own Angel Moro himself because he was getting annoyed.
*So at the time, you probably could have deduced something like: Beerus > Angel Moro ~ current MUI Goku >>> Moro-73 > Broly > n00b-MUI Goku ~/> Jiren > Belmond.
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As of the current arc, Granolah was transformed into the most powerful being in the universe, "apart from the Gods themselves"... Which flat-out tells us that Beerus is STILL the top-dog in U7. We also found out that Beerus uses a super-secret Destruction technique, which is essentially the GoD equivalent of the Angels' UI.
*So as of now, we can logically deduce something like: Beerus > Granolah > current MUI Goku ~ UE Vegeta ~/> Angel Moro >>> Moro-73 > Broly > n00b-MUI Goku ~/> Jiren > Belmond.
tl;dr
At this point, the manga has wanked Beerus so astronomically that he would logically be able to own feebs like Jiren(and by proxy, Belmond) with literal finger-flicks... But I obviously don't think that was the authorial intent back when Tori/Toyo originally wrote the ToP saga. Hence my opinion that Beerus is being inextricably scaled-up for the lulz. /shrug