Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Started by Estacado633 pages

How about Gohan getting stronger because he was imagining becoming stronger? Kinda like Frieza did while being in that coccoon in hell...😖hifty: or he became a Ranger of the wild....that could also boost his power....

Or he just makes a wish to become stronger like Piccolo. Like father like son. 😛

The Frieza example was more him learning to better control his golden form through mental image training, which was at least an established thing in Z.

What about Trunks and his "strengthened" SSJ2 form?

Fit Buu?

Master "Oh, I've been training in secret all that time and nobody noticed" Roshi?

😛

Like it or not... bullshit upgrades out of nowhere that don't make a tiny bit of sense, that's what DBS is all about.

Future Trunks never stopped fighting at any point like Gohan did. He didn't have the luxury to with his timeline being what it was. That said, I liked his "super saiyan rage" form as well as the spirit sword thing because it looked cool and I guess out of bias for the character, whom we never get to see that often anyway. Gohan on the other hand is always "there", but just doesn't fight half the time.

Which makes Gohan suddenly becoming as strong as he needs to be again the next time Tori decides to use him feel so much more shoehorned than any other saiyan character.

I'll give you that on Roshi, though Buu I can at least understand to some degree since he's a magical creature and never trained before in his life prior; not that it mattered since Buu ended up not being used for the tournament of power anyway.

Gohan hasnt been cool since forever....I cant really give a phuck about him.....

What bothers me is that Vegeta hasnt beaten a single opponent that is worth mentioning (outside of god Toppo) through out Super and Z while he is constantly getting power ups.....at this point its safe to say he will never beat any major villain...

So

Spoiler:
Piccolo's New form is changing, his color to orange.
Vegeta wins a sparring match against Goku, Gohan's New form is rage based called Final Gohan which turns his eyes red and hair silver.

Just saw a picture of the new Gohan... At least it isn't just the mystic form again. Looks more cool than I thought he would, considering.

Goresh said Gohan's transformation is even better than the Broly movie ones also

Spoiler:
it is a call back to his first Time transformation to ssj 2. Also Piccollo New form is called Orange Piccolo
haermm

Also,

Spoiler:
Android 21 is canon now I guess, as she apparently makes an appearance in the film. She was a Toriyama created character to begin with though, so her ability to be canonized was never really in doubt. I didn't want her over Cell though, but since we learned earlier that the OG Cell wasn't gonna be in this anyway, it's fine.

There are a few vids up on youtube about Gohan's transformation and Cell max who is basically a giant imperfect cell but he is red instead of green..

The new form of Piccolo has the facial expression of handsome squidward....

GigachadColo

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1535474194007306241/ejOUVc8r?format=jpg&name=large

Originally posted by Estacado
There are a few vids up on youtube about Gohan's transformation and Cell max who is basically a giant imperfect cell but he is red instead of green..

The new form of Piccolo has the facial expression of handsome squidward....


To be precise, it's apparently the big lipped "Semi Perfect" Cell but red because that one was Toriayama's favorite to draw. It was the least popular Cell form by far though, and the only one I didn't particularly like.

In a way though I consider it a blessing in disguise that this ripoff abomination isn't "Perfect Cell but red".

Still, this new one feels like another old late game DBZ movie monster that probably won't even have the original voice, let alone talk; like Bio-Broly, Janemba, Hirudegarn, and so on. I thought we were past this.

The new Piccolo looks pretty cool at least, yeah.

Ooops my bad I mixed up the name of the forms...

Too bad we barely see any of the New Gohan....

Spoiler:
Im glad that Gohan uses special beam cannon instead of kamehameha.

Imagine if like Frieza's 2nd or 3rd form was Toriyama's favorite, and therefore when Frieza came back in Resurrection F, it was one of those forms but golden.

None of his forms were as ugly as Semi Perfect Cell at least. The final form always makes sense to do regardless, but this isn't the OG Cell, so... srug

Gohan having that sounds cool. He needed more to stand out besides Kamehameha.

It looks like yamcha has been left out of another movie. I’m happy that someone besides goku and vegeta get to do stuff, but it would be nice if he could at least show up to watch or something

I read Toriyama didn't like semi perfect form, and that's why it had the shortest time.

Originally posted by Estacado
GigachadColo

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1535474194007306241/ejOUVc8r?format=jpg&name=large

That form actually looks pretty badass.

Originally posted by Galan007
That form actually looks pretty badass.

He becomes much more bigger in this form...

https://canada.detailzero.com/content/uploads/2022/06/11/eac1553910.jpg

Another pic of Final Gohan...

https://preview.redd.it/f884lgfdm1591.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&483aef46

Eek. Nevermind.

Gohan looks ridiculous.

Apparently the name of this movie is Super Hero because Toriyama forgot the name of the current series is Dragon Ball Super, so you thusly have Super in the title twice.

facepalm I know it'll make a lot of money like any Dragon Ball movie, but I hope it doesn't sell as much as DBS Broly and the like. Cell fans particularly need to give Toriyama all the backlash he deserves. Even Gohan fans to some extent, as he's not allowed to defeat a new villain, only a ripoff of a villain he previously beat as a poor imitation of the Cell Games.