Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Now that's what I call "character development" 👆

Originally posted by Estacado
So

Spoiler:
Cell max is not related to the og Cell.
Also Piccollo unlocks his ultimate power with the help of the dragon.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Nobody in this thread is talking about Bulma's ass?

https://twitter.com/rydoodlz/status/1532906960235945986?s=21&t=ySGEW9cxfoW2dhuUvpRbdg

That you did 👆 Going blind in my old age.

Memes are quite exquisite. And that's a great find 😂

She's old.

You don't want current Bulma with a big ass, you want first appearance Bulma with one.

Originally posted by cdtm
She's old.

You don't want current Bulma with a big ass, you want first appearance Bulma with one.

So, you're saying you're a pedophile?

Explains a lot.

😂

The appeal of current Bulma is that she's a milf, yeah.

Forgot to comment on the Piccolo part of Estacado's last post, but Piccolo getting his new power from a dragon wish rather than it being latent potential of his he had unlocked, is incomprehensibly lame if that's true. Sounds like the Granolah thing all over again. I'm just gonna wish to become stronger.

Any past villain should've just done that then since immortality's overrated, and they can still get hakai'd.

Frieza: I wish to become stronger than a super saiyan.
Dragon: Done.

Yet another lore retcon I guess, as it contradicts the whole "can't surpass the power of my creator" limitation Shenron and Porunga had at least that specifically prevented such wishes before. Even worse than the potara retcon for Vegito or any other change I can think of.

Piccollo tries to ask Dende to help him but he cant unlock it for some reason according to the spoilers...

What about Elder Kai? That's usually the one who unlocks people's potential, or at least it was for Gohan. Another case of Toriyama not remembering his own shit.

Maybe he just wishes for a cool new form.

Originally posted by Estacado
So Toriyama just confirmed Gohan is the strongest character ever....

In an interview regarding the upcoming movie...

Originally posted by Estacado
Also said Moro and Granolah are not canon.

Link to the interview?

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
😂

The appeal of current Bulma is that she's a milf, yeah.

Forgot to comment on the Piccolo part of Estacado's last post, but Piccolo getting his new power from a dragon wish rather than it being latent potential of his he had unlocked, is incomprehensibly lame if that's true. Sounds like the Granolah thing all over again. I'm just gonna wish to become stronger.

Any past villain should've just done that then since immortality's overrated, and they can still get hakai'd.

Frieza: I wish to become stronger than a super saiyan.
Dragon: Done.

Yet another lore retcon I guess, as it contradicts the whole "can't surpass the power of my creator" limitation Shenron and Porunga had at least that specifically prevented such wishes before. Even worse than the potara retcon for Vegito or any other change I can think of.

Getting only a few years to live is a pretty big trade off, doubt Freeza would want that.

Plus he can't speak Namek for the Namek dragon, and the Earth dragon is off limits for obvious reasons (Goku and Vegeta living there)

Pretty sure the new movie is after Broly and before the Moro saga. Could be wrong though. I see it as them not wanting to spoil anything for non manga readers.

You're alive, brem?

I couldn't find anything on that interview either, but why value anything Toriyama says when he can't even remember his own material? At the end of the day, the execution > his words on whose strongest.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Link to the interview?

YouTube video

This was supposed to be on DBS official Twitter but couldnt find it.

As for the canon part that might be just speculation on fans part...

All the Gohan and Toriyama fanboys in the comments. 😘

No one is denying that Tori can write whatever he wants and destroy previously conceived notions which he kinda does all the time, but making Gohan suddenly the strongest again without much buildup and without him having done much prior while Goku and Vegeta had been training with gods and angels for years while getting new forms is just bad writing, no matter how you spin it. It just got to a point where Gohan didnt earn whatever new power he gets. No god ki or training with gods/angels, just Piccolo on occasion, and he one day wakes up to being the strongest again I guess.

I hope at least he doesnt still get drunk on power and allows the enemy to somehow get an upper hand. After Cell and then Buu, wouldnt really want to see that trope again now.

Oh, for the record, I would have been all for Gohan surpassing his dad again.. if it had been properly built up like before. With Z, you actually had arcs, not asspulls and retcons. Is just a shallow attempt to cater to people that wanted Gohan back on top again.

Also, a movie or creator claim about X being the strongest is usually just done for marketing, and can not be taken seriously otherwise. Gohan is the set protagonist for this. Why wouldnt they try to hype him up for it?

Hell, any time there is a new thing to promote Toriyama tends to overhype said character by saying theyre the strongest ever during prerelease.

Toriyama and affiliates say a lot of things. There is no way Gohan should be stronger then MUI or Goku or UE Vegeta, which leave the realm of conventional power levels behind for specialized god and angel skills.

Not without a major amp of his own, and not something that just easily happens.

👆

p.s. This is hilarious in hindsight.