Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Extended version with tons of extra...his next project is Vegeta, Fokú and Saitama VS Hulk and Superman. The animations are mind blowing...

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So now the manga appears to be doing a recap version of the events of Super Hero.

Whether it's the anime or manga, I guess they just can't resist doing recaps of the Super movies still; Broly being the only exception for some reason.

So we're going to have months of what is basically Toyotaro retelling the story of the Super Hero movie. At least I won't have to see another animated Cell Max, but still wasting the viewers' time.

I mean, its gonna add a lot more. They've already expanded on Piccolo and Pan. Plus added Krillin in.

Fair point I guess, though basically further confirms the movie is not canon to anything other than itself.

I heard that there's like a lot Akira had to cut out to get the movie down to length, so I guess this will be more, his expansion to that. Not so much, non-canon but condensed for theaters.

Though I guess Krillin being at the car while Hedo and Magenta, already changes a ton.

Great...instead of puting Broly in the manga which was actually cool...we get to see Super Hero which was pretty lame outside Gigachadcollo and Beast...

Broly has yet to make any appearance in the official manga?

Only in a single page saying it happened.

Yeah manga skipped the movie completely with a reference that it happened.

Did Revenge of Freeze even happen, or was that a reference or promo to the movie too?

Battle of the Gods and Resurrection F had manga recaps too, iirc. From what I more recently heard, was also something Toriyama insisted on at the time for some reason, for both that and the two films having the anime recap arcs.

Forgot if it was ever mentioned here, but I remember hearing that Toriyama was upset at how bad the animation for the Battle of Gods and Resurrection F anime recaps were, but with how pointless they were anyway, it's comeuppance in a way; if he's indeed the reason those recaps happened to begin with.

I mean Toei already blew their load with BotG and RoF as films. Expecting them to have the same kind of magic for them as anime recap arcs is unrealistic. Movie recaps are the most blatant waste of money I can think of; even when I didn't think of them as wastes I usually had no desire to watch recaps of movies that were longer at the time.

Obviously too we can thank Toriyama for the Super Hero recap the manga is now having, with him breathing down Toyotaro's neck to do a manga version of SH. Overall, just wasting the time, money, and talent of fellow DB creators, as well as wasting the time of the audience that have already consumed the films.

At least a manga recreation is only wasting Toyotaro's time and ours rather than wasting as much money to pay crunched animators, but still terrible and annoying. The films just kinda have to exist in a vacuum for no real reason.

Toriyama didn't have as much an attachment to Broly to do some recap on his film. I guess because Tori wasn't the original creator of Broly, he merely rebranded the character. Hence, DBS Broly only having one manga page referencing that it happened.

tl;dr: All of modern DB's problems go back to Toriyama as usual. The way he holds the series back with all the padding and recaps is unforgiving.

Originally posted by cdtm
Did Revenge of Freeze even happen, or was that a reference or promo to the movie too?

And based on the solicits for this month's chapter, it looks like we are gonna get a complete manga adaption of the new movie, which is weird.

Here we go again...

At least Broly is making some form of manga appearance even if it is just him training a little in Beerusland like in the movie. As for the Gamma thing,

Even if the gammas are just blue level its still ****ing dumb cause he saw Moro arc Goku and Vegeta fighting...but yeah coming from Piccolo who would get 1 shot killed by either of the blue saiyans and him saying like he was doing some serious battle with them is just simply dumb...

And this is pre-orange Piccolo right? In which case, yeah. Pretty dumb.

I was bored and decided to google オレンジ・ピッコロ (Orange Piccolo).

Gotta say, I wasn't disappointed:

😂

Piccolo has always been my favorite Z-fighter personally, so the way he ends up getting an asspull powerup I guess is bittersweet at worst. For better or worse though he is still basically the main character of the whole Super Hero arc, while Gohan is just a random plot device for the final act.

Sure. I just wish that orange form design didn't look like crap.

Piccolo's antennae getting an erection in the Orange form is hilarious, btw.