Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's watchable, somewhat enjoyable even (probably because I didn't watch RoF sans a few scenes), but power-levels are giving me a headache...Shishami should have never been a threat to Gohan, unless he trained with Frieza, too... which we know he didn't...
He wasn't a threat to Gohan. Gohan stood there and allowed him to squeeze him. Looked at him like he was crazy. It was a non fight.
I liked the latest episodes. Don't know what people are expecting.
Originally posted by carver9
He wasn't a threat to Gohan. Gohan stood there and allowed him to squeeze him. Looked at him like he was crazy. It was a non fight.I liked the latest episodes. Don't know what people are expecting.
Shishami easily punched his way through Gohan's Renzoku Energy Dan... then grabbed him and even though Gohan was about to eventually get out as noted by Tagoma, Gohan was certainly worried for a good moment.
"I have a child now, I can't lose waaaaaaaah!"
Originally posted by KentoConsidering both Gotenks and Super Buu bypassed the room's limit (ie if you stay for more than 2 years the door closes on you), it makes sense that people hundreds of times more powerful can permanently bypass it, especially considering the implication is that Kami created it.
Well, apparently the Hyperbolic Time Chamber was fixed and upgraded...
Even if it wasn't fixed you'd figure Goku and Vegeta could just rip holes in dimensions into it pretty casually.
But this is going to get harder and harder to see them not utterly eclipse Beerus if all they do is train for years WITH EACH OTHER. Guess we'll see.
Originally posted by One Big MobBuu was in there all of two minutes. Gotenks and Piccolo were only in there for like an hour. And Goten and Trunks were only in there a week or two before they came. Piccolo destroyed the door and said there was no way to fix it. Nobody ever bypassed it's limits by staying longer than that.
Considering both Gotenks and Super Buu bypassed the room's limit (ie if you stay for more than 2 years the door closes on you), it makes sense that people hundreds of times more powerful can permanently bypass it, especially considering the implication is that Kami created it.Even if it wasn't fixed you'd figure Goku and Vegeta could just rip holes in dimensions into it pretty casually.
But this is going to get harder and harder to see them not utterly eclipse Beerus if all they do is train for years WITH EACH OTHER. Guess we'll see.
Probably could, but the door and everything didn't look like rubble.
Not really, seeing as we never actually seen Beerus go all out, and so they can make him as powerful as they want and always be much higher than Goku and Vegeta until they want Beerus and Whis to be surpassed. Also despite things that have been said about Super Saiyan Blue being on level with Super Saiyan God Mode or stronger, everything else points to it not being true, because they don't hold a candle to Beerus or Champa still.
Originally posted by KentoThe limits of the HTC are that the door closes off for you if you stay longer than 2 years. Piccolo destroyed the door, same thing as them being in there for longer than 2 years. It only takes a Super Buu level being to rip open a doorway. All they'd need to do then is find a way to keep it open. Maybe wrap some of that Z Sword breaking shit around it or something.
Buu was in there all of two minutes. Gotenks and Piccolo were only in there for like an hour. And Goten and Trunks were only in there a week or two before they came. Piccolo destroyed the door and said there was no way to fix it. Nobody ever bypassed it's limits by staying longer than that.Probably could, but the door and everything didn't look like rubble.
Not really, seeing as we never actually seen Beerus go all out, and so they can make him as powerful as they want and always be much higher than Goku and Vegeta until they want Beerus and Whis to be surpassed. Also despite things that have been said about Super Saiyan Blue being on level with Super Saiyan God Mode or stronger, everything else points to it not being true, because they don't hold a candle to Beerus or Champa still.
I know. I'm just saying that if it wasn't. Vegeta/Goku are operating at a level capable of finger flicking Buu's best away. Had they just been breaking into the dimension I wouldn't bat a butt hair at it.
Yeah I'm hoping that's true, but considering I don't remember any sort of hint that Beerus was lying in Super when he said he was going all out I've lost a little bit of hope on that.
Yea, but even during RoF they were nowhere near the power of Beerus with Super saiyan blue despite it being called stronger than Super Saiyan God Mode. The only reason I can think of it being stronger is it has no time limit and is done under their own power. It hasn't actually made them as strong as God Mode does, and in Super the God Mode was still rising in power before it ran out.