The manga pigmented Goku's SSB hair a bit darker in previous chapters:
Compare that to his hair pigmentation in this chapter, and there is definitely a difference:
Personally, I'm really hoping that is just artist error/inconsistency, and Goku did activate SSB against Frost. After all, DBS has heavily alluded to Goku and Vegeta essentially having only two levels now: base and SSB. Their SSJ transformations of old seemingly went out the window when they unlocked Godly ki.
However, this promo material for DBS depicts Goku and Vegeta in their standard/golden-haired SSJ forms during the Champa tournament:
http://i.imgur.com/PoJxVzk.jpg
So in all likelihood, Goku did turn into a regular ol' SSJ in this chapter... Which seems so f*cking stupid, as I thought Toriyama's intent was to streamline Saiyan transformations. Meh... srsly
That aside, another possibility I considered is that Toriyama decided to take a page from the original version of BoG...
Recall that after SSG timed out in the original BoG film, Goku reverted to base and continued fighting Beerus. However, he soon transformed into a standard/golden-haired SSJ when his base power wasn't enough and pressed the fight much harder:
Beerus later commented that Goku's power at that level was only slightly weaker than SSG, as he'd absorbed that tier of power into his being. So maybe that's what we're seeing right now in the tournament..? Essentially a 'faux-SSB'.
Just a thought. /shrug
Originally posted by NemeBroNo bloody idea.
So is there any explanation for why this show is complete dog shit?Not the manga. Talking about just the show, and its incredibly awful at times animation.
I would have assumed the new Dragon Ball would have something resembling a decent budget and competent animation.
Originally posted by Galan007Maybe they can still access normal states of ssj, and Goku is doing it to conserve his strength. Since he really hasn't been having that tought a time against Frost. Course if the new episode titles are anything to go by (assuming that anime and manga don't differ) Goku is going to lose anyway. So who knows, maybe it is just coloring error.
Personally, I'm really hoping that is just artist error/inconsistency, and Goku did activate SSB against Frost. After all, DBS has heavily alluded to Goku and Vegeta essentially having only two levels now: base and SSB. Their SSJ transformations of old seemingly went out the window when they unlocked Godly ki.
Also the tourney is whack. If Goku loses there's doubt that Vegeta wins just because and I have my doubts they turn nipples into the hero of the tourney. Though he's apparently stronger.
Also Piccolo is even crazier out of place now considering the first two guys are SSG level and it looks like the rest of the team is as well.
Interesting turn if Goku loses. Curious what Cellemba can do though.
Originally posted by Galan007
After all, DBS has heavily alluded to Goku and Vegeta essentially having only two levels now: base and SSB.
Their "base" level is actually Saiyan-Beyond-God state, right?
Originally posted by carver9Gohan isn't said to have been training at all in the manga version. That's why Goku skips right over him. What happens in RoF arc in the manga might be closer to the movie version where Gohan doesn't feel the need to train and nobody died.
I think Piccolo is stronger than what we think. Especially with him working Gohan the way he did. I also meant to say DUE to stamina, not DIE.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Their "base" level is actually Saiyan-Beyond-God state, right?
Every little boost in Dragon Ball turned a former equal insignificant. Cell versus Piccolo is a perfect example. He absorbs a few people and suddenly he just shrugs off Piccolo's assaults and casually breaks his neck with a punch.
Originally posted by KentoPerhaps.
Maybe they can still access normal states of ssj, and Goku is doing it to conserve his strength. Since he really hasn't been having that tought a time against Frost. Course if the new episode titles are anything to go by (assuming that anime and manga don't differ) Goku is going to lose anyway. So who knows, maybe it is just coloring error.
It just seems like Toriyama doesn't have a clear vision of the direction he wants to go with Saiyans, so all this random transformation BS comes off as a giant clusterf*ck.
I don't even watch the show and I find it irritating. 👇
Originally posted by Galan007Its not even just the show. The manga has ssj looking hair. For whatever random reason, be it coloring error, artist error, or it actually being normal ssj. Then the anime goes and completely changes things that happen in the BoG arc so who knows how much the Tournament arc will change. And I guess in a few episodes we will see if he actually goes ssj or if its ssb. I'm not sure if I expect the anime and manga to actually follow each other now or for them to have different variations on the fights with pretty much the same outcome of who wins and loses. That's kind of why I watch the anime, to see the differences that happen.
Perhaps.It just seems like Toriyama doesn't have a clear vision of the direction he wants to go with Saiyans, so all this random transformation BS comes off as a giant clusterf*ck.
I don't even watch the show and I find it irritating. 👇
