Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Placidity
If you think about it, theres no way Piccolo could beat Goku base form, which means he couldn't beat Frost either.

I find that the fight was completely realistic and Piccolo knew the only way he'd win is with a strong charged attack. I think the only way Piccolo could have underestimated Frost is if Frost was holding back, since Piccolo had already watched him fight Goku and thought he had a good gauge on how he should engage Frost.

[i]Originally posted by Placidity [/iIn the preview of ep 35, Vegeta is fighting Frost in SSJ1 form. I think Frost has been holding back his real power, otherwise he wouldn't be so smug going against Vegeta, which he knows is a Saiyan similar to Goku - someone who is apparently far above himself.

If Vegeta is smart, he would go blue hair straight away and pound Frost's face in.

I actually liked the twist, this way we can actually enjoy Vegeta laying the smackdown. Can't wait.

Also, I haven't watched the episodes with subs yet, but looked like Frost didn't seem to give a shit/had a smirk on his face when Champa looked like he was ready to blast him for "cheating".

This is another indication that he has not shown his full power. Frost may believe he rivals or surpasses Champa, and maybe even Vados.

I mean even if he is stronger than Champa, he must realize Vados would step in to take care of business if it comes down to it. However it is possible, Frost just thinks Vados is only Champa's "attendant."

So either Frost is near Champa level (and above) or he is delusional and retarded, or he just doesn't care about death.

Remember, Freiza was shit scared of Beerus.

It could be possible he has no clue about Champas power. Also he doesn't seem so powerful just has the stinger. I mean Freeze usually only began cheating when he knew he was weaker not when he had power hidden. Frost seems the same cause Goku was winning. And Piccolo seemed to think he could hold Frost in place. Its just weird also that in a no killing fight Piccolo was tryying to use a.powerful enough blast to shatter the shield.

^ Yes, you have a point there too. But at the same time, it's unlikely Frost doesn't at least know about Champa's reputation. He even faked asking if Champa could help him beat the baddies if he won.

Piccolo is useless as eva.

His fight with Frost still looked like shyte.

^ Is it me (only judging this from one or two other threads), or do you shit on Piccolo at every given opportunity? 😕 He's pretty badass when executed right, but rarely to never is that ever done anymore.

Nah Piccolo could be pretty badass but they make him look like crap since forever.
At least this time he got cheated.

I would have prefered him beating Frost but the outcome was too obvious.

I mean come on he couldnt beat 1 person after Raditz in DBZ which is a shame since he was the big bad in DB.

Have to wait for the sub but why is everyone letting frost fight vegeta even after its been confirmed he cheats?

Originally posted by Estacado
Nah Piccolo could be pretty badass but they make him look like crap since forever.
At least this time he got cheated.

I would have prefered him beating Frost but the outcome was too obvious.

I mean come on he couldnt beat 1 person after Raditz in DBZ which is a shame since he was the big bad in DB.

Yeah, that's true. The closest he got to beating someone after Raditz from what I remember was stalemating against 17, which in honesty was a pretty cool fight, but even then 17 would've eventually won due to his infinite stamina as an android. Other than that he maimed Babidi, but yeah.. Piccolo prolly had more cool moments in some of the non-canon movies than he's had in the canonical timeline, tbh.

Gonna wait for sub-titles in a few hours before seeing the rest of the current episode.

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
Have to wait for the sub but why is everyone letting frost fight vegeta even after its been confirmed he cheats?

Champa wanted to kill Frost, but Vegeta wanted Frost to stay so he could kick his ass and get some good feels.

Piccolo's loss was reversed, but he agreed to let Vegeta fight in his place.

Vados convinced Champa that this was to their advantage (if they want to allow someone disqualified back in) in terms of winning the tournament, so they agreed to... let dem fite (Godzilla ref).

I don't think Beerus had any comment on this arrangement. Probably indicates their confidence in Vegeta.

Originally posted by Placidity
Champa wanted to kill Frost, but Vegeta wanted Frost to stay so he could kick his ass and get some good feels.

Piccolo's loss was reversed, but he agreed to let Vegeta fight in his place.

Vados convinced Champa that this was to their advantage (if they want to allow someone disqualified back in) in terms of winning the tournament, so they agreed to... let dem fite (Godzilla ref).

I don't think Beerus had any comment on this arrangement. Probably indicates their confidence in Vegeta.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Oh, okay. Now I see where you're coming from.

Yeah, that's true. The closest he got to beating someone after Raditz from what I remember was stalemating against 17, which in honesty was a pretty cool fight, but even then 17 would've eventually won due to his infinite stamina as an android. Other than that he maimed Babidi, but yeah.. Piccolo prolly had more cool moments in some of the non-canon movies than he's had in the canonical timeline, tbh.

Gonna wait for sub-titles in a few hours before seeing the rest of the current episode.

I wanna see Vegeta shitstomp Frost but with animation like this it would still be.meh to see....ermm

Only thing I like about Super so far is that Vegeta is equal maybe superior to Goku again.

Outside of that it's kinda forgetable.

Originally posted by Estacado
Piccolo is useless as eva.

His fight with Frost still looked like shyte.

Also it seems like Piccolo charging the sbc gave him a sort of power up form itself. Which is an interesting take on it and was a cool way to fight.

Good episode.

While I like the idea of a good Freeza, I have to say that twist was a great surprise and I was grinning ear to ear to see good old "Freeza" return once again. Can't wait for the English dub of this.

Also it's confirmed that Goku didn't use his full power so presumably he wasn't using godly chi at all.

...yeah, he wasn't.

Originally posted by Kento
But blocking him one handed and stuff makes no sense if he can't match him. Frost shouldn't of even needed the stinger to beat Piccolo when he should literally be so far above him. Piccolo was able to dodge, block and other stuff while distracted Vegeta likes to go cocky and lose. I'll laugh if everyone loses to Frost and Monako has to fight him.

I think Vegeta will go Ham on Frost, or at least I hope so.

Vegeta is not the same guy he used to be thanks to all the development he went through during the end of Z. Plus he's been training a lot and he respects/fears Bills. I don't think he is going to **** it up. He also wasted no time and rekt Frieza without any second thoughts.

Wishful thinking though. Now watch as Toriyama doesn't give a **** and writes him circa Android saga.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I think Vegeta will go Ham on Frost, or at least I hope so.

Vegeta is not the same guy he used to be thanks to all the development he went through during the end of Z. Plus he's been training a lot and he respects/fears Bills. I don't think he is going to **** it up. He also wasted no time and rekt Frieza without any second thoughts.

Wishful thinking though. Now watch as Toriyama doesn't give a **** and writes him circa Android saga.

But Vegeta doing what he just did to fight Frost, who isn't really in a league to make it a good fight without cheating is old school Vegeta who killed weak opponents because he could. And nearly destroyed the planet in Cell because Cell was too weak to pose a challenge and didn't think Perfect Cell would skyrocket in power so much.

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So Ares834 was right. There was foul play at work.

As for the rest of the tournament. I have a bad feeling for Vegeta. He will look good for 1 or 2 fights then he will be humiliated so that red t1ts guy can show his stuff.

I think everyone is going to be shocked at what's that guy name, I think it's Ice, power level when he kills Frost.