Most powerful Sith? Spring 2015 ed.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
That seems a less likely interpretation than the alternative tbh.

Originally posted by psmith81992
they probably would have used more definitive terminology if yor interpretation was correct.

I don't think they'd waste any time at all with an epic declaration that Sheev is... just stronger than Vader. 😬

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I don't think they'd waste any time at all with an epic declaration that Sheev is... just stronger than Vader. 😬

I think its supposed to represent him reaching the pinnacle of Sith power.

Exactly. He was already the most powerful Sith in the galaxy for almost two decades. It'd be a pointless statement.

Its not a definitive statement about all time.

There's nothing else it can logically mean.

Of course. Hes the current best of the best, he's the best of Bane's sith, etc. It could logically mean a lot of things.

No it wouldn't, because he was already those things long before becoming emperor. Bane's Sith aren't distinguished from the "true Sith" by anyone in the galaxy at large, especially the Sith themselves. They're seen as a continuation. That was kind of the entire point of Bane being the Sith'ari.

If it were supposed to be Bane's Sith, it would have said so. But it just said Sith, so it refers to everyone who comes under that umbrella, be it all current living Sith, or every Sith of all time. Those are the only two possibilities, and only one of them is logical.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
If it were supposed to be Bane's Sith, it would have said so. But it just said Sith, so it refers to everyone who comes under that umbrella, be it all current living Sith, or every Sith of all time. Those are the only two possibilities, and only one of them is logical.

Oh that's cute, so you believe in one instance they should have been explicitly clear, but in this case it's ok to be implicitly clear. Like I said, it's nowhere near definitive unless you can prove it and judging by what you've done thus far, I'm not holding my breath.

So Sidious is better than Vitiate. Big news.

Nobody said the statement was definite, we're just drawing logical conclusions.

If those conclusions aren't to you're liking, I can't say I really care...

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nobody said the statement was definite, we're just drawing logical conclusions.

If those conclusions aren't to you're liking, I can't say I really care...

I don't really care since you can't prove your case and have been unable to do it all this time.

Originally posted by Stigma
So Sidious is better than Vitiate. Big news.

Vitiate's promotion started in 2012.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
So you accept that the Sith Emperor's accolades don't apply to Palpatine? Well it's a start.

But Vitiate's promotion covers beings such as Celestials, Soa, The World Razer, Terror from Beyond, and Darth Nihilus.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
As for the statement in question, "the most powerful Sith Lord of all" is a vague statement that just as easily be of all time, as of all current Sith Lords. If someone would like to point out why the former is semantically impossible, go ahead.

The former, however, is just more likely. Other than Palpatine Vader was the only other Sith Lord in existence at the time, and it's common knowledge that his abilities were crippled as a result of his duel with Kenobi. Being more powerful than Vader is not an accolade for Sidious, is a given, and doesn't need to be stated.

That said its only a reprint, not a new source.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Not that we need one. 💃

Originally posted by Beniboybling
No one believes you.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
You've yet to back this up with proof or logical reasoning, being the enemy of other Sith factions does not make you a non-Sith, Sith is a belief.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Do you think that Vitiate is serving Sith cause in any way?

Fact is when you strip it down to the bare bones, to be a Sith is to study and follow Sith philosophy and teaching, the Sith Code. Nothing else is static. I've been given no reason to believe Vitiate has strayed from the ideals of what it is to be Sith, and indeed his personality seems unchanged since he was annoited as a Lord by none other than Marka Ragnos, clear recognition of his dedication to the Sith ways.

Vitiate's purposes are contrary to the existing Sith Order, this is not unprecedented, and it does not make him no longer Sith.

Sith cause is immortality tbh.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Sith cause is immortality tbh.

For whatever its worth, from the Ultimate Star Wars:

The full power of the light side and dark side of the Force are on display during Yoda's clash with Emperor Palpatine. Outmatched, Yoda retreats and waits for a new champion to lead the fight against evil.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
For whatever its worth, from the Ultimate Star Wars:

The full power of the light side and dark side of the Force are on display during Yoda's clash with Emperor Palpatine. Outmatched, Yoda retreats and waits for a new champion to lead the fight against evil.

Yoda/Sidious > Vitiate, confirmed 👆