Originally posted by NewGuy01
I would agree if we were talking about temporary amps, but in the case of Sarasu, the change was permanent.It's like only counting Vitiate pre-Nathema in our lists lol.
More like Jerec with the Valley of the Jedi amp or something. Wouldn't Taalon have transcended being a mere Sith at that point?
Originally posted by hutchy1345
Then taalon post pool should be pretty high up, 3rd or 4th maybe?
If we count him it's more like he'd be number 1, by a wide margin. 😐
Not including Taalon or other weird anomalies, the list should be:
1. Palpatine
2. Plagueis
3. Valkorian
4. Caedus
5. Krayt
The clear entries are 1 and 2, whereas the rest are sort of speculative. I think the list is the strongest one, though, when we interpolate from a set of data points:
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[*]Palpatine is canonically the most powerful sith lord of all time by TPM, and even according to Lucas himself
[*]Plagueis was listed as the most powerful sith lord of all time on his novel's hardcover back, so presumably he was top dog before Palpatine surpasses him at some point by TPM. And the novel even acknowledges the Sith Emperor's existence, so the OOU "they hadn't created Vitiate's character yet" defense doesn't even work here.
[*]Post-Nathema Vitiate > any previous sith by sourcebooks.
[*]Valkorian is still listed in sourcebooks as a sith
[*]Caedus is there due to his ability to endanger Luke in lightsaber combat and his > Vader accolade on the inside flap of Invincible's hardcover.
[*]Krayt is there by his post-ressurection feats and his performance against Abeloth in Apocalypse, but I don't think he has the Luke-matching feat of Caedus
[*]Other contenders can't be higher than 4: any ancient ones are below Valkorian by fiat, Vader is below Caedus, and it's tough to make a case for Bane/Maul/Dooku being above Caedus given the latter's performance against Luke
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So the possible swaps are taking out Krayt for Vader, Exar Kun (canonically strongest of the pre-Valkorian ancient sith) or Nihilus (though he's < Revan Reborn according to Meetra), and playing around with Caedus's ordering.
The rest of the top ten lineup would probably feature Vader and Exar Kun, and then three from Dooku, Jadus (strongest of Valkorian's sith empire other than the emperor himself), Malgus (via feats), Sadow (Vitiate feared his potential return), Ragnos (scared the shit out of Luke, but it's possible Luke was going from hearsay), Revan and Wrylock.
I think I'm currently standing at:
1. Darth Sidious / Sheev Palpatine
2. Darth Vitiate / Tenebrae / Valkorion
3. Sarasu Taalon (^)
4. Darth Plagueis / Hego Damask
5. Darth Krayt / A'Sharad Hett
6. Darth Caedus / Jacen Solo
7. Shadow of Revan (^)
8. Darth Vader / Anakin Skywalker
9. Exar Kun
(^) - May or may not be higher.
Originally posted by NewGuy01✅
I think I'm currently standing at:1. Darth Sidious / Sheev Palpatine
2. Darth Vitiate / Tenebrae / Valkorion
3. Sarasu Taalon (^)
4. Darth Plagueis / Hego Damask
5. Darth Krayt / A'Sharad Hett
6. Darth Caedus / Jacen Solo
7. Shadow of Revan (^)
8. Darth Vader / Anakin Skywalker
9. Exar Kun(^) - May or may not be higher.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Taalon is probably number one TBH
Maybe. Then again, for all of his power, he died rather easily--and he couldn't bring to bear the kind of world-devastating powers Palpatine and Valkorion were capable of. Sheer power by itself isn't everything.
and SOR Revan isn't a sith
Says you.
Krayt above Caedus?
Sure, why not?
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Maybe. Then again, for all of his power, he died rather easily--and he couldn't bring to bear the kind of world-devastating powers Palpatine and Valkorion were capable of. Sheer power by itself isn't everything.
Well he was weakening whilst undergoing his transformation. If he dipped in the pool of knowledge you'd expect him to have gained knowledge in the Force, but we don't really know for sure.
Says you.
😬 He despises the Sith and is willing to commit genocide to destroy them. Just using the dark side doesn't make you a Sith Lord.
Sure, why not?
Just curious.