(Rematch) The Hulk (MCU) VS Thor (MCU)

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah powerhouses sucker punch 😂

Nah the powerhouse is the guy who takes everything the raving monster gives him while trying to calm him down.

Thor was more durable and had the more powerful punches so he’s the powerhouse.

And best of all Thor was winning the fight! Powerhouses don’t need help from GM to save their hide!

There was a clear winner! Couldn’t have been more clear. Marvel and Stan Lee himself have declared Thor the powerhouse. Accept it and stop crying. That’s why this movie has destroyed the Hulk fan(boy)s 😂

It’s okay to be no.2 😄

That just shows Thor's toughness but physicality aka powerhouse is the Hulk's bread and butter. Refers to Quinjet to settle the matter.

Thor isn't more durable or more powerful. Both can't be true since you claimed Hulk without stood his attacks. You are too biased to think straight and had no faith in a hammer less Thor prior to the film.

Winning or losing has nothing to do with being a powerhouse. I didn't say he was unbeatable it seems you believe powerhouse means unbeatable now as well. GM cheating has nothing to do with the Hulk. Thor already hit him with the lightning and you said you'd have no excuses if the Hulk tanked that.

The movie made it clear Hulk is the powerhouse while Thor is the more skilled warrior. Neither is u beatable and both have different pluses to bring to the table.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Thor isn't more durable or more powerful. Both can't be true since you claimed Hulk without stood his attacks. You are too biased to think straight and had no faith in a hammer less Thor prior to the film.

Winning or losing has nothing to do with being a powerhouse. I didn't say he was unbeatable it seems you believe powerhouse means unbeatable now as well. GM cheating has nothing to do with the Hulk. Thor already hit him with the lightning and you said you'd have no excuses if the Hulk tanked that.

Yep he’s more durable. Took Hulk’s best punches repeatedly to the face.

And yep he’s the Powerhouse. Hulk was shaking and groggy after 1 of Thor’s power blows, while Thor was Just smiling and walking up to Thor ready to finish him off.

Thor’s the teams powerhouse.

Not even sure if Hulk’s no.2 given Vision. Hulk has to earn himself that position.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Refers to Quinjet to settle the matter.

😂

This is what Hulk fan(boy)s are reduced to

^ Was 2 of Thor’s blows, not 1.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yep he’s more durable. Took Hulk’s best punches repeatedly to the face.

And yep he’s the Powerhouse. Hulk was shaking and groggy after 1 of Thor’s power blows, while Thor was Just smiling and walking up to Thor ready to finish him off.

Thor’s the teams powerhouse.

Not even sure if Hulk’s no.2 given Vision. Hulk has to earn himself that position.

😂

This is what Hulk fan(boy)s are reduced to

That has nothing to do with the powerhouse. You really don't grasp what it is we are even discussing. That just means Thor was hurting him not that he's a powerhouse. Superman is the powerhouse between himself and WW. She is the superior warrior. If WW damaged him and he was hurt that doesn't suddenly make her the powerhouse even if she wins.

Hulk took what you said he couldn't. He wasn't defeated. He ragdolled Thor like Loki. Powerhouses physically manhandle their weaker foes. We aren't ever going to see Thor ragdoll Hulk in the same way Hulk manhandled him.

That's the point. That's the icing on the cake.

As of this movie there isn't really an argument anymore. GM had to call Thor off, and even then Thor survived the Hulk's apparent signature kill move with barely any injury.

Thor wins, with ease.

^ 😆

Poor Quan’s the only “Hulk wins, and Hulk’s the powerhouse” supporter left after Ragnarok put all the arguments to a decisive end.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is assuming Hulk couldn't take Hulk's punches.

That has nothing to do with the powerhouse. You really don't grasp what it is we are even discussing. That just means Thor was hurting him not that he's a powerhouse. Superman is the powerhouse between himself and WW. She is the superior warrior. If WW damaged him and he was hurt that doesn't suddenly make her the powerhouse even if she wins.

Hulk took what you said he couldn't. He wasn't defeated. He ragdolled Thor like Loki. Powerhouses physically manhandle their weaker foes. We aren't ever going to see Thor ragdoll Hulk in the same way Hulk manhandled him.

That's the point. That's the icing on the cake.

Well you've shifted the definition a few times, so it's hard to keep up.

If you mean Hulk's the "powerhouse" because he's physically the strongest, then i'd say you're really stretching the definition of "powerhouse." Spider-Man is physically stronger than Dr. Strange, does that mean he's more of a powerhouse than the Sorcerer Supreme? No, what you're talking about is the team's "strongman."

The difference is (sans Kryptonite) Superman's best blow is more powerful than Wonder Woman's best blow. And he can take more hits. You can't say that for Hulk next to Thor.

Thor took Hulk's best hits repeatedly. Hulk only took a couple of Thor's best hits, and was on the losing end of the fight before the GM intervened to save Hulk.

Hence Thor is more powerful, obviously more skilled, and overall superior.

Your best possible argument is that it ended before we could see the winner, ergo a stalemate. (Which is all the most hardcore Hulk fans like Sorrow are arguing here now). In which case you still can't decisively call Hulk the team's biggest powerhouse, because it's between him and Thor. So that's clearly been taken away for you.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
lol Odin saved Thors life against Hulk and against Hela. Hulk won the first part of the arena fight against Pre amp Thor, post amp Thor was actually able to fight Hulk power vs power for the first time but no amount "holding back" excuses can change that Hulk took Thors best physical attack to date and got right back up. Hulk can clearly take a lot more but no one in this thread can say for 100% certainty whether Thor can ko Hulk, we do now know Hulk has the power to ko Thor.

His best physical attack to date against the Hulk. Unless you think that uppercut is the hardest he has ever hit, and if you do, lmk so I can stop replying to you.

We have just as much evidence of Thor being able to knock out the Hulk with his fists (Nevermind Mjolnir) as we do Hulk having the power to knock out Thor. Because he tried and couldn't, not even close.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
When it takes almost all of Thors strength to match one of Hulk arms skill is only going to carry him so far. He can't dance around Hulk forever. As soon as Hulk gets hands on him it's pretty much all one way traffic and that's backed up by their two fights.

Mjolnir was destroyed but Thor had a very adequate stand-in, this fight was clearly intended to give us a classic Thor vs Hulk battle and once Hulk got angry he decisively overpowered Thor even with hammer in hand. Overall the fight more or less followed the script, back and forth with both getting good licks in, ambiguous ending but enough to know that an all out fight to the death would be epic and likely not a stomp on either side.

Skill will actually carry him very far as evidenced in this fight where he was beating Hulk's ass 90% of the time. Hulk might be stronger, but Thor is a powerhouse himself, even in h2h it's a very competitive fight. This isn't Loki, Thor isn't helpless once he's been grabbed by the Hulk

An adequate stand-in? That's a very stupid thing to say. This movie went out of it's way to highlight the importance of Mjolnir and it's power, every movie has. Hulk wouldn't have been able to overpower Thor with Mjolnir for example.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Thor smacked Hulk multiple times with that hammer clearly just bashing Hulks head in does not work (and never has). His lightning punch packed a much bigger wallop and Hulk recovered in moments, Thor would've been BADLY rocked by a punch like that.

Thor getting beat down is enough to make him drop Mjolnir unwillingly, sure he can call for it to return but not in the middle of being rocked by attacks, Thor had to mentally command Mjolnir he can't do that while having his brain scrambled. He dropped Mjolnir against even Iron Man for a while let's not pretend as if it rarely occurs, when fighting someone of somewhat comparable or greater power he can be stunned enough to drop it and openings can occur.

Every time he hit Hulk with that stand-in hammer, it hurt, a lot. And each time the Hulk hit the floor. At one point, a hit to the leg drops Hulk, and instead of following up with one to the head, he breaks the Hulk's weapon instead. Based on what I've seen, if Thor started pounding on Hulk's face with that hammer, it would've been bad for the Hulk.

Openings can occur, not for long. Especially not now that he can spam lightning bolts mid-fight. If Thor gets a reforged hammer, Hulk would be f*cked.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, post god mode Thor is clearly more powerful than in any other Thor showing. Even with the Jotunheim buster, had Thor aimed his god mode lightning punch against the ground in the same scene it absolutely would've had a similar effect on the environment.

It's nice seeing the Thor contingent rallying after his best performance against Hulk in years but even in a fight showcasing his skills and power Thor still could only stalemate Hulk and still got knocked out at the end of it all.

Post-god mode Thor is more powerful than any other Mjolnir-less Thor showing, that is true. Everything after is just your imagination. Even after the battle on Sakaar, Thor still knew he couldn't match Hela without Mjolnir.

Jotunheim buster and the hammer hit in Sokovia are superior obviously.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ 😆

Poor Quan’s the only “Hulk wins, and Hulk’s the powerhouse” supporter left after Ragnarok put all the arguments to a decisive end.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well you've shifted the definition a few times, so it's hard to keep up.

If you mean Hulk's the "powerhouse" because he's physically the strongest, then i'd say you're really stretching the definition of "powerhouse." Spider-Man is physically stronger than Dr. Strange, does that mean he's more of a powerhouse than the Sorcerer Supreme? No, what you're talking about is the team's "strongman."

The difference is (sans Kryptonite) Superman's best blow is more powerful than Wonder Woman's best blow. And he can take more hits. You can't say that for Hulk next to Thor.[/B]

Powerhouses ragdoll. They use their physicality to dominate their opponents. Thor used his power along with strength and skill to gain the advantage.

Thor took Hulk's best hits repeatedly. Hulk only took a couple of Thor's best hits, and was on the losing end of the fight before the GM intervened to save Hulk.

Hence Thor is more powerful, obviously more skilled, and overall superior.

Your best possible argument is that it ended before we could see the winner, ergo a stalemate. (Which is all the most hardcore Hulk fans like Sorrow are arguing here now). In which case you still can't decisively call Hulk the team's biggest powerhouse, because it's between him and Thor. So that's clearly been taken away for you. [/B]

Speculation. Thor was unable to beat him. You claimed he couldn't survive the lightning without being ko'd. Hulk is still the powerhouse by definition you're trying to argue overall formidability but Thor gained his edge not by strength but by his lightning amped attacks, skill, and quickness. Pull yourself together. Hulk is definitely the powerhouse and tanked Thor's lightning.

🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk is the character who can withstand the most damage here

Based on?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is physically the strongest and the most durable hence the powerhouse. Dr. Strange isn't a powerhouse he's the sorcerer supreme. His magic is far more potent than Spider-Man's raw strength but Strange isn't a powerhouse by this definition at all.

Your definition of powerhouse is wrong.

What you mean is Hulk is the "strongman" or the "physical beast" of the Avengers, whereas Thor is the powerhouse.

Of course Dr. Strange is more powerful than Spider-Man Lol.

Originally posted by quanchi112
i wouldn't say that. WW's weapons would do more cutting damage than Superman's best blow but strength wise along with durability Superman is the Hulk to her Thor. Both can harm the other but Superman is clearly her physical superior.

Except Thor and Hulk both hit each other with their best blows simultaneously, and Thor came out on top.

Hence Thor is the clear powerhouse.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, we can. You claim Thor is more powerful so Hulk tanking his lightning proves he's the powerhouse of the team.

I wouldn't call that "Tanking". Tanking suggests he just stood there taking it all with hardly any effect on him.

When Hulk caught Thor's hammer blow, that was more akin to tanking.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Powerhouses ragdoll.

LOL A cheap shot doesn't prove anything. I'd say Thor smashing Hulk to the other side of the arena almost KO'ing him, was much more akin to ragdolling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk took repeated Thor strikes throughout the fight.

The first one almost KO'd Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor used his quickness to evade and weaken the Hulk.

Speed is also a part of physical power. Unless you're going to claim Flash or Quicksilver have no power, or that Captain America is physically superior to Quicksilver.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Once Hulk connected he showed his strength can dominate but Thor got his second wind from his daddy talk and came back.

You mean Thor tapped into his own power showing who the true powerhouse was.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Speculation. Thor was unable to beat him.

Wrong, Thor was beating him, and fully able to beat him which is why Hulk needed GM to help him. Thor only needed aid to tap His Own power. Hulk needed GM to stop Thor beating on him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You claimed he couldn't survive the lightning without being ko'd.

I never said he'd finish him in 1 or 2 shots 😂

Although I wouldn't completely rule it out looking at how he almost KO'd Hulk in one hammer shot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk is still the powerhouse by definition

By whose definition? Show me in the dictionary.

Originally posted by quanchi112
you're trying to argue overall formidability but Thor gained his edge not by strength but by his lightning amped attacks, skill, and quickness.

You argued Lightning wouldn't make a difference, because he didn't use it on Hulk in the Hellicarrier. You're back tracking now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Pull yourself together. Hulk is definitely the powerhouse and tanked Thor's lightning.

🙂

Yeah losing a fight is "Tanking" 😂

I think this conversation has run its course no?

Also lol at Dr. Strange not being a powerhouse and strength being the only definition of power. You went full retard Quanchi.

I guess only strength matters.

Quanchi logic.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think this conversation has run its course no?

You're right. Best not too spam too many pages on it.

Your one line about going full retard on the definition of powerhouse pretty much summed it up.

SMH. People here don't seem to know what "tanking" and "powerhouse" mean.

Thor and Hulk cannot tank each other's blows, because they get hurt by them. "Tanking" implies being able to stand there and just take someone's blows. That is clearly not the case with both Thor and Hulk.

Thor is a powerhouse and Hulk is a physical powerhouse. Debate over.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Based on?

Originally posted by quanchi112
His history.

What a response.