(Rematch) The Hulk (MCU) VS Thor (MCU)

Originally posted by FrothByte
Here's some facts:

Thor took a dozen or so of Hulk's best punches and was still not knocked out. Was still in prime fighting condition and was able to extricate himself from Hulk and fight back.

Hulk took 2 of Thor's best punches, was woozy from those punches, then Thor was zapped. Hulk showed no ability to stop these punches.

Thor was ko'd not the Hulk.

Originally posted by Estacado
It was clear that GM zapped Thor becaus he was afraid Hulk would lose.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This does not mean he would have lost. This was just GM being corrupt. We clearly see Hulk recover and ready for more. Anything else is speculation.

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LOL!!!

Originally posted by GreenGoliath
Feats like being handcuffed or held down in a restraining chair?(Thor)

Or do you mean feats like knocking Surtur's sideways after he bigger than the Asgardian mountains, or smashing through the Arena wall or simply by ripping through metal like pape by walking on to the Quinjet. Or tearing up the Hulkbuster Armor which was Tony and Bruce's best tech or dropping in and just running through a concrete bunker to take it out.

Because being held down in a chair by restraints or held in a cell are such great feats.

In the fight itself, the only blow aisde from the storm enhanced punches that actually really impacted the Hulk from Thor was when he timed his charge and used his own charge and momentum against him. Thor's punces and Hammer blows may have buckled a knee or turned his head but the the few times and it was only a few that Hulk hit Thor it launched him across the Arena or pounded him into a crater. Even a kidney punch from behind, or trying to choke him out with an arm lock around his neck didn't have any impact on the Hulk.

So as the feats are show, all you have are two storm ehanced punches. Not one shotting a Chitauri leviathan and stopping it dead it's tracks or the many other strength feats.

I am willing to give the Thor his due but saying the MCU puts the debate to rest in the face of the screenwriter saying the opposite is just opinion. You have yours, Hulk fans have theirs as it was intended to be.

Originally posted by Silent Master
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor fans can't stand Hulk's superior physicality. It's so damn obvious it isn't close in that area. I'm willing to bet in a prolonged fight Hulk definitely comes out on top. A prolonged battle favors the specimen.

No one is saying Hulk isn't physically superior, and no one cares about that. Thor is overall more powerful, and the film made it clear Thor has the power to beat Hulk. I am assuming you are a grown man, act like it. Grow up. Debate like an adult, be objective, and don't personalize a battle between fictional characters.

If Thanos is fighting Hulk, and Galactus decides to hit him with everything he's got, totally out of no where, and Thanos is about to go down, what happens then? Hulk lands a blow, KO's Thanos. Hulk beat Thanos, right? He is superior to Thanos, right?

Originally posted by quanchi112
And Hulk was able to take the lightning and the lightning amped attack. The movie made it clear jump attacks obviously carried more force. The lightning amped punch was a jump attack. Hulks punches were close quarter. When he jump punched he ko'd Thor with one shot.

Thor was ko'd not the Hulk.

For the record, the obedience disk was activated. The obedience disk rendered Thor unconscious earlier in the movie.

So logically, we have no way of concluding if Thor could or couldn't take that jump punch, because the context included an activation of a device which included knocking Thor out when he was in combat.

Hulk's KO on Thor is inconclusive and is neither a positive or negative feat for either characters because it is insignificant,

What? That's called unbiased assessment without confirmation bias, Quanchi. Debate like an adult, a grown man shouldn't have investments that are THIS personalized in fictional characters. This goes beyond the debate. You project your psychodynamics ALL over battle forums with Hulk and Thanos

It's okay to accept flaws in yourself, we all have them.

Thor.

Originally posted by GreenGoliath
Yes after he showed just as much ability to impack Surtur as Hela did and the Hulk was unhurt and ready to go at Surtur again and was upset that he wasn't being allowed too.

As to the latter, god-mode Thor was shown to be able affect the Hulk. That would only diminish over time and god-mode Thor's attacks were still fought off by Hela. He wasn't invinicible and the Hulk would have gotten his shots in had the fight continued. The cool thing is the Hulk's blows only get stronger over time but I do believe Thor has a deeper well of power to draw upon as well. I think we would have seen that too.

So, god-mode Thor was incredible but we saw the first few minutes of what was going to be a long fight. Again, it's what I saw but at least I can back it up and say the scene was wrtitten that way.

Are you serious? Do you realized how biased and skewed this is?

I am going to deactivate this account now. It's really discouraging how some of you guys have to make up narratives. Hulk attacking Surtur was a GAG. Not only did Hela do WAY more than Hulk, Hela was laughed at.

Do you think Hulk could take down Hela? Do you think Hulk would survive more than one hit if Surtur wanted to kill him?

Hulk was pounding on Surtur's face, and Surtur was talking, and casually tossed him 100s of feet. The entire gag of that scene was that Hulk attacked a character who was SO out of Hulk's league, that Hulk attacking him, and being tossed aside was the joke of the scene. Nothing about that scene is feat. If anything, it's a durability feat for Surtur. When Hulk was clawing and punching at Surtur's face, he didn't cause Surtur to recoil, or turn with any strikes. It was like a kitten was hitting him.

But that doesn't even matter because it was a gag scene

Good grief. I am out. I am one post away from typing up psychoanalyses of you, Quanchi and that Josh clown.

Originally posted by Dayman
No one is saying Hulk isn't physically superior, and no one cares about that. Thor is overall more powerful, and the film made it clear Thor has the power to beat Hulk.

Yep. This is what Quan Just turns a blind eye to. The outright obvious shown in the film.

Originally posted by Dayman

Good grief. I am out. I am one post away from typing up psychoanalyses of you, Quanchi and that Josh clown.

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They’re all just really upset about how the fight went down. It’s effected their psyche on so many levels.

Originally posted by Dayman
No one is saying Hulk isn't physically superior, and no one cares about that. Thor is overall more powerful, and the film made it clear Thor has the power to beat Hulk. I am assuming you are a grown man, act like it. Grow up. Debate like an adult, be objective, and don't personalize a battle between fictional characters.

If Thanos is fighting Hulk, and Galactus decides to hit him with everything he's got, totally out of no where, and Thanos is about to go down, what happens then? Hulk lands a blow, KO's Thanos. Hulk beat Thanos, right? He is superior to Thanos, right?

What have I said that's anywhere near the analogy you described ? Be a man and be specific and let's debate, sport.

Originally posted by Dayman
For the record, the obedience disk was activated. The obedience disk rendered Thor unconscious earlier in the movie.

So logically, we have no way of concluding if Thor could or couldn't take that jump punch, because the context included an activation of a device which included knocking Thor out when he was in combat.

Hulk's KO on Thor is inconclusive and is neither a positive or negative feat for either characters because it is insignificant,

What? That's called unbiased assessment without confirmation bias, Quanchi. Debate like an adult, a grown man shouldn't have investments that are THIS personalized in fictional characters. This goes beyond the debate. You project your psychodynamics ALL over battle forums with Hulk and Thanos

It's okay to accept flaws in yourself, we all have them.

Logically both characters hurt the other because they had momentum and more force to bring to bear with their jump punches. You can pretend his jump punch isn't more powerful than his close quarter punches.

It is conclusive and Thor's soreness when he awakes is clear. Make as many excuses as you want because you're upset Thor wakes up feeling like shit while Hulk plays around with a ball without a care in the world.

You try to make this personal to escape the actual merits of the debate which is pretty evident to anyone with a functioning brain stem. I predicted this fight pre film and made posters like Darth Thor who did NOT believe in Thor's abilities or skill minus the hammer.

Hulk looked superior and took everything Thor threw at him. Hulk wasn't sore by the pesky lightning.

Be gone, sock.

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Originally posted by Dayman
[B]just as much ability to impack Surtur as Hela did and the Hulk was unhurt and ready to go at Surtur again and was upset that he wasn't being allowed too.

Are you serious? Do you realized how biased and skewed this is?

I am going to deactivate this account now. It's really discouraging how some of you guys have to make up narratives. Hulk attacking Surtur was a GAG. Not only did Hela do WAY more than Hulk, Hela was laughed at.

Do you think Hulk could take down Hela? Do you think Hulk would survive more than one hit if Surtur wanted to kill him?

Hulk was pounding on Surtur's face, and Surtur was talking, and casually tossed him 100s of feet. The entire gag of that scene was that Hulk attacked a character who was SO out of Hulk's league, that Hulk attacking him, and being tossed aside was the joke of the scene. Nothing about that scene is feat. If anything, it's a durability feat for Surtur. When Hulk was clawing and punching at Surtur's face, he didn't cause Surtur to recoil, or turn with any strikes. It was like a kitten was hitting him.

But that doesn't even matter because it was a gag scene

Good grief. I am out. I am one post away from typing up psychoanalyses of you, Quanchi and that Josh clown. [/B]

Originally posted by quanchi112
You can pretend his jump punch isn't more powerful than his close quarter punches.

Actually one of your better arguments. But still a non feat given the disc already put Thor down.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk looked superior

Lol no.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Actually one of your better arguments. But still a non feat given the disc already put Thor down.

Lol no.

Without a doubt. No clear winner while Thor was ko'd and woke up sore. My prediction was dead on.

Thor looked so superior that the Grandmaster lost faith in his favorite champion and decided to interfere in order to save him.

Quan just can't admit that GM had to pull a David Stern for Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Without a doubt. No clear winner while Thor was ko'd and woke up sore. My prediction was dead on.

So KOing with massive aid is a legit "powerhouse" win now? Cool.

Fact is, had GM not stopped the match, Hulk would have gotten whooped. Hulk fans just can't admit that.