Kurse vs Hulk

Carver I'm still waiting on that proof that Hulk can swat Thor's hammer away, when clearly we see him being drug around by it..

Either answer it here, or in our BZ thread, but you will answer it, even if I have to knock some more teeth out.

Hulk clearly can't swat away Thor's hammer as seen in Avengers, he can grab it out of the air, but it's magical "weight" (ie not worthy/worthy aspect) is something Hulk can't work around.

Having said that, I still think Kurse's swatting of Mjonir had more to do with Kurse being engineered to be the anti-Asgardian weapon than it being a matter of "x-amount of strength to manipulate Mjolnir", which I don't think is a matter of strength really.

Swatting Mjlonir is different than trying to hold it. One of them have a lot to do with an enchantment and the other doesn't. Kurse isn't catching Mjlonir and holding on to it. He hasn't shown the ability to do this.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I can see some of his points but making the point "He can swat the hammer away" when been shown otherwise is silly.

Was never shown. Hulk was trying to hold on to Mjlonir...something that goes against the enchantment. I'm surprised you can't see the difference.

Originally posted by carver9
Swatting Mjlonir is different than trying to hold it. One of them have a lot to do with an enchantment and the other doesn't. Kurse isn't catching Mjlonir and holding on to it. He hasn't shown the ability to do this.

Hulk hasn't been shown to be able to swat it away, or even move it.

So we have feats of Kurse doing it, and Hulk not being able and being drug around with it.

I'm gonna go with the valid feats. Why do you keep making excuses where there is not. Simply put, Hulk can't stop the hammer no matter what.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Hulk hasn't been shown to be able to swat it away, or even move it.

So we have feats of Kurse doing it, and Hulk not being able and being drug around with it.

I'm gonna go with the valid feats. Why do you keep making excuses where there is not. Simply put, Hulk can't stop the hammer no matter what.

Sigh... again, there is a HUGE difference from Hulk and Kurse showing. Hulk is trying to overpowering the enchantment, Kurse showing doesn't have a thing to do with an enchantment. Once you see the difference in these showings, you'll stop comparing them. Neither Hulk or Kurse is overpowering Mjlonir enchantment.

When has Hulk tried to slap Mjlonir out of the air? Which scene?

Thinking about it more...

Carver as wacky a Hulk fanatic as he is does actually have a point in a weird way.

It's [somewhat] similar with how Loki can block Mjolnir when he and Thor exchanged blows, but was shit out of luck trying to move Mjolnir when Thor placed it on his chest. Pretty much anyone who has blocked a Thor/Mjolnir attack, but we assume wouldn't be worthy to hold Mjlonir.

Before Hulk tried to LIFT Mjolnir, he grabbed it in mid-air and the force of the throw took his entire body for a ride. Then the hammer dropped and that's when Hulk tried and failed to overpower the enchantment. Kurse on the other hand almost easily deflected the hammer.

The Worthiness enchantment has no reason to be brought up when comparing Hulk and Kurse.

It still completely boggles my mind how anyone could think Hulk would be able to repeat the Kurse feat. Have you guys not been paying any attention to the movies? Mjolnir can hit far harder and is almost certainly overall more powerful than Hulk, much less his fist.

Hulk grabbed the hammer by the pole and tried to hold on to it. Again, he grabbed the hammer by the pole and tried to hold on to it. What is so hard to comprehend here. That is the same as holding Mjlonir in your hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=advsN-DfY2k

1:02

Hulk grabs Mjolnir in midair and is sent FLYING for a few feet by the force of the throw. THEN the hammer drops to the ground.

The worthiness enchantment means you can't lift the hammer. It wasn't in play when Hulk was overpowered and dragged through the air like a kid.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=advsN-DfY2k

1:02

Hulk grabs Mjolnir in midair and is sent FLYING for a few feet by the force of the throw. THEN the hammer drops to the ground.

The worthiness enchantment means you can't lift the hammer. It wasn't in play when Hulk was dragged through the air like a kid.

So you're saying Hulk should be able to hold Mjlonir as long as it is in the air? So the hammer has to be laying down in order for the enchantment to take place but as long as it is in the air, Mjlonir can be held. Good point there rage.

That isn't what he is saying at all, stop acting like abhi.

Originally posted by carver9
So you're saying Hulk should be able to hold Mjlonir as long as it is in the air? So the hammer has to be laying down in order for the enchantment to take place but as long as it is in the air, Mjlonir can be held. Good point there rage.

Purposefully being obtuse or...? Not at all what I am saying (Not even sure what you mean in that post tbh).

- Thor throws Mjolnir.
- Hulk grabs Mjolnir in the air.

From here there are two definitive ways to go. Either the hammer:
- Is stopped dead in the tracks and falls to the ground
or
- Hulk is sent flying because the force of the throw was too great and THEN it falls to the ground

In the first scenario, Hulk's strength was equivalent to the force of the throw and THEN the enchantment kicked in. In the second scenario, he was overpowered by the sheer power of the throw and couldn't stop the hammer.

I don't know how simpler I can make it without drawing pictures here man.

Hulk gripped Mjlonir at the pole. Gripped it. HOLDING it in his hand.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk gripped Mjlonir at the pole. Gripped it. HOLDING it in his hand.

Your point? Lol, the hammer carried him like a rag doll, then when Thor called it back, it carried him like a doll again.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Your point? Lol, the hammer carried him like a rag doll, then when Thor called it back, it carried him like a doll again.

Reread what I said and think about it?

Carver you still can't answer my question.

Again, since you think Hulk can swat the hammer away without zero showings, then I am to assume Kurse can punch the levithan and stop it without help?

Originally posted by carver9
Reread what I said and think about it?

There is nothing to think about, you are assuming he can treat the hammer like Kurse did with zero feats to suggest to do so, the closest feat we have of him trying to handle the hammer, he ends up being handled by it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Have you guys not been paying any attention to the movies? Mjolnir can hit far harder and is almost certainly overall more powerful than Hulk, much less his fist.

Do you believe Loki is strong enough to block and hold an overhand smash from the Hulk?

Originally posted by Robtard
Do you believe Loki is strong enough to block and hold an overhand smash from the Hulk?

No Loki would get crushed.