Which incarnation of Sidious can defeat Vitiate?

ROTS Sidious is the weakest imo. His force bending ritual with Plagueis is the most impressive esoteric force displays in the mythos. By ROTS he is the single avatar of darkness in the galaxy.

Why would RotS Sidious be weaker than TPM Sidious?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
stigma respond to or acknowledge my point earlier tbh

Well, I do acknowledge that you might be right about Force storm, that he could not do it before DE. As I said, I thought there was something more to it, but no matter.

I obviously acknowledge too that Viti has a planetary scale feat. What I’m saying that from my perspective it's less impressive than Sids bending the will of the Force feat.

Can Viti overcome Sids with Ziost feat? I think there’s a room for speculation. Can he overcome powerful force users? Did he only kill mooks? Perhaps great power secures one’s survival against that technique.

Also, I question whether Viti in a proper fight will be able to keep up with Sids. Yes, he won’t be blitzed in a traditional sense, but could be overwhelmed by Sids sheer speed. I don’t see any argument why not.

Lastly, I’m curious how some of the quotes calling Sids the most powerful are understood now (by RotS). If we go by feats and accolades, Sids is still at the top.

Sidious could perform Force Storm before DE - he confirms this in BoS, not to mention he used it in RotJ.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Sidious could perform Force Storm before DE - he confirms this in BoS, not to mention he used it in RotJ.

It's true. Vitiate still has his 'relatively slow' problem.

What's the fastest we've ever seen him move, anyway?

Being able to create distance after standing next to the Jedi Knight? lol

@Stigma

After a lengthy discussion with a certain poster, I have Sidious definitively > Vitiate. Disregard my post tbh.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
@Stigma

After a lengthy discussion with a certain poster, I have Sidious definitively > Vitiate. Disregard my post tbh.

ROTS!Sidious is more powerful than Vitiate. Perhaps earlier incarnations, perhaps not.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
ROTS!Sidious is more powerful than Vitiate. Perhaps earlier incarnations, perhaps not.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
It's true. Vitiate still has his 'relatively slow' problem.

What's the fastest we've ever seen him move, anyway?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
@Stigma

After a lengthy discussion with a certain poster, I have Sidious definitively > Vitiate. Disregard my post tbh.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Care to provide details?

I'll talk to you via PM when I have the chance.

Originally posted by Stigma
Sorry. I missed that.

Well, I do acknowledge that you might be right about Force storm, that he could not do it before DE. As I said, I thought there was something more to it, but no matter.

Originally posted by Stigma
I obviously acknowledge too that Viti has a planetary scale feat. What I’m saying that from my perspective it's less impressive than Sids bending the will of the Force feat.

And Vitiate eliminated the Force energy surrounding Nathema. Any comments?

Originally posted by Stigma
Can Viti overcome Sids with Ziost feat? I think there’s a room for speculation. Can he overcome powerful force users? Did he only kill mooks? Perhaps great power secures one’s survival against that technique.

Protags had to evacuate Ziost, nobody can tank planet-busting power.

B/W Ziost is an Imperial World. Sith were definitely stationed there.

Originally posted by Stigma
Also, I question whether Viti in a proper fight will be able to keep up with Sids. Yes, he won’t be blitzed in a traditional sense, but could be overwhelmed by Sids sheer speed. I don’t see any argument why not.

Originally posted by Stigma
Lastly, I’m curious how some of the quotes calling Sids the most powerful are understood now (by RotS). If we go by feats and accolades, Sids is still at the top.

Burden of proof is on you for speed feats. What's the fastest you've seen him move.

I still remain true that ROTS can defeat vitiate but if he can't ROTJ definitely can.

I concur.

TBH there are vocies that proclaim (probably rightly) that there's virtually no difference between RotS Sidious and TPM Sidious.

In that case I'd say every incarnation of Sidiosu is better than Vitiate.

Originally posted by Stigma
I concur.

TBH there are vocies that proclaim (probably rightly) that there's virtually no difference between RotS Sidious and TPM Sidious.

In that case I'd say every incarnation of Sidiosu is better than Vitiate.

Whenever Plaguis died that's when any version of Sidious is equal to ROTS because the only other thing he did was train dooku and he didn't train him much in sabers as dooku couldn't go any further than where he already went.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Burden of proof is on you for speed feats. What's the fastest you've seen him move.

Furthermore, Vitiate defeated Revan in few seconds. In this short span, Vitiate was able to perform multiple actions.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I still remain true that ROTS can defeat vitiate but if he can't ROTJ definitely can.

And Vitiate can defeat any incarnation of Palpatine with his Force abilities.

Originally posted by Stigma
In that case I'd say every incarnation of Sidiosu is better than Vitiate.

Any Sidious could