Originally posted by KingD19So you believe old Kirk can take out NuKhan ? GTFO.
I will point out that if Nu-Khan let Old Kirk wail on his face, he'd more than likely end up sleeping on his back. Kirk was clearly superhuman in all his fights, like when he fought single handed with the Gorn and overpowered Khan who was explicitly stated to be 5x stronger than a human.
Feats matter. Also strength doesn't translate into training, etc. did you see the awful push fight between the two in the trek episode ? A more awful fight I can't recall ever seeing on TV. Well, maybe lifetime movies but still. Who wants to watch those other than Robbie.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Nu Khan had training whereas old khan woke up and tried to take over the enterprise. Are you familiar with their experiences being different ? Their physiques are different. Benedict put on muscle for the role. But according to Robbie same bday is all that matters. You're always confused and I don't expect you to grasp a point.🙂
IOW: "Cumberbatch put on sexy muscles, that means the character is different!"
Good lord, stop embarrassing yourself. They look different because Cumberbatch is not Montalban and Montalban is not Cumberbatch.
They're the same character, it wasn't a reboot. It was a time-line split at a certain point of the ST universe.
Khan-nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!
Originally posted by Robtard
IOW: "Cumberbatch put on sexy muscles, that means the character is different!"Good lord, stop embarrassing yourself. They look different because Cumberbatch is not Montalban and Montalban is not Cumberbatch.
They're the same character, it wasn't a reboot. It was a time-line split at a certain point of the ST universe.
Khan-nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!
quan doesn't understand movies.
Originally posted by RobtardBeing the same character doesn't mean they have the same experiences. Michael Jordan needs the experience of playing ball to be at the top of his game. He doesn't always end up being great without putting in the work.
IOW: "Cumberbatch put on sexy muscles, that means the character is different!"Good lord, stop embarrassing yourself. They look different because Cumberbatch is not Montalban and Montalban is not Cumberbatch.
They're the same character, it wasn't a reboot. It was a time-line split at a certain point of the ST universe.
Khan-nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!
Cumberbatch had the training as Harrison. Mother experiences post awakening are entirely different. You have no grasp of human development.
If they have different experiences they are different people. Crises change people. Their events are radically different in each universe. Pay the **** attention to Star Trek, clown.
It's like saying spock will always be the same as Spock prime despite their experiences being completely different. 😂
Originally posted by DTM
New Khan really beats down Original Khan in a fight. Shatner Kirk beat Montalban Khan, he wouldnt stand a chance against New Khan.
ToS Kirk is superhuman when he needs.
-Gets stabbed in the back/kidney with a shank, but doesn't bleed.
-Goes H2H with a Gorn, who is strong enough to throw large boulders.
-Handles himself somewhat well against a horny Spock while suffering high altitude sickness due to being in Vulcan's thinner atmosphere.
It should also be noted that ToS Kirk had to resort to a makeshift club in order to beat Khan.
Originally posted by quanchi112Oldkirk>>>>>NuKirk
You're completely wrong. NuKhan is superior in every way. Feats matter, sport.
OldKirk>>>>>NuKhan
OldKhan>>>>>NuKhan
Be mad
Originally posted by Robtard
ToS Kirk is superhuman when he needs.-Gets stabbed in the back/kidney with a shank, but doesn't bleed.
-Goes H2H with a Gorn, who is strong enough to throw large boulders.
-Handles himself somewhat well against a horny Spock while suffering high altitude sickness due to being in Vulcan's thinner atmosphere.
It should also be noted that ToS Kirk had to resort to a makeshift club in order to beat Khan.
Originally posted by Arachnid1You are an ignorant fanboy. NuKirk would beat Old Kirk.
Oldkirk>>>>>NuKirkOldKirk>>>>>NuKhan
OldKhan>>>>>NuKhan
Be mad
NuKhan stomps old Khan.
NuKhan would beat the shit out of Old Khan and Old Kirk at the same time with relative ease.
Why be mad that you're stupid. Your problem.
Originally posted by quanchi112Destroyed Robbie with this gem.
Being the same character doesn't mean they have the same experiences. Michael Jordan needs the experience of playing ball to be at the top of his game. He doesn't always end up being great without putting in the work.Cumberbatch had the training as Harrison. Mother experiences post awakening are entirely different. You have no grasp of human development.
If they have different experiences they are different people. Crises change people. Their events are radically different in each universe. Pay the **** attention to Star Trek, clown.
It's like saying spock will always be the same as Spock prime despite their experiences being completely different. 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Destroyed Robbie with this gem.
No you didn't. You tried to secretly change your stance and everyone saw it and laughed at your novice attempt.
You tried to change what you said: "They're not the same character because they look different, Cumberbatch put on muscle.", which was incorrect as shown. With: "they have different life experiences". Well, duh, everyone knows that and I told you as much.
They're still the same character, you were wrong. Deal with it already.
#gottem
Originally posted by RobtardI said their experiences were different thus they are completely different. Training, etc.
No you didn't. You tried to secretly change your stance and everyone saw it and laughed at your novice attempt.You tried to change what you said: "They're not the same character because they look different, Cumberbatch put on muscle.", which was incorrect as shown. With: "they have different life experiences". Well, duh, everyone knows that and I told you as much.
They're still the same character, you were wrong. Deal with it already.
#gottem
Having the same birthday and completely different experiences means they are different versions. Cumberbatch did put on muscle and his training in the films shows how vastly different he is than the guy who lost a fight with old Kirk.
Compare their hand to hand fighting skill by his fight with NuSpock and the fight with old Kirk in that episode.
Evidence. I destroyed you. Comic versus debaters understand the relevance in alternate reality characters being different but you don't. You're an ape.
You were wrong, as shown, multiple times. Still laughing at your "but they look different!" That's so street-level.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Cumberbatch did put on muscle
Montalban had some muscles back then:
This is why it's important to actually watch something before commenting, little guy.
#gottem again
Originally posted by RobtardHe didn't have the training or the muscle batch had.
You were wrong, as shown, multiple times. Still laughing at your "but they look different!" That's so street-level.Montalban had some muscles back then:
This is why it's important to actually watch something before commenting, little guy.
#gottem again
You ignore every other thing I say because you aren't a good debated. Experience makes us who we are. Take a person and in one lifetime they are raped and another they aren't. Are they the same person with the same experiences ? I'm sure you're a rape victim so I want you to be able to relate to my undeniable point.