Khan vs Khan

Originally posted by Robtard
You still think that when I said "physically" I was referring to "muscle mass", what a dunce. I laugh at you.

LoL, if you're going to Wiki-warrior it, at least post something that supports your stance.

Please, keep posting things that don't support your cause because you still don't understand what I meant.

They're still the same character, you're just going to have to deal with this at some point, little-guy. Two different actors, same character. It happens.

No, since the characterization changes, etc.

Another definition.

Characterization since you don't know what that means as well. Sad.

Characterization | Definition of characterization by Merriam-Webster
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/characterization
Full Definition of CHARACTERIZATION. : the act of characterizing; especially : the artistic representation (as in fiction or drama) of human character or motives.

The characterization is different. You do know what different means ?

If the characters are the same why isn't Uhura with Spock in the prime universe ?

Ready for the prime Spock quote which absolutely slam dunks my case. You are a very dumb person.

Edit - Also, based on Robtard's logic, I'd kick the asses of both Khans because I have even more muscles.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Edit - Also, based on Robtard's logic, I'd kick the asses of both Khans because I have even more muscles.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am saying they are different physically in their entirely since their actions are different. You say since they have the same bday they are exact,u the same thus saying actions, training, etc. don't matter, same guy. Horrific.

No, since the characterization changes, etc.

Another definition.

Characterization since you don't know what that means as well. Sad.

Characterization | Definition of characterization by Merriam-Webster
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/characterization
Full Definition of CHARACTERIZATION. : the act of characterizing; especially : the artistic representation (as in fiction or drama) of human character or motives.

The characterization is different. You do know what different means ?

If the characters are the same why isn't Uhura with Spock in the prime universe ?

Ready for the prime Spock quote which absolutely slam dunks my case. You are a very dumb person.

You said they were different because they don't look the same. Because Cumberbatch is not Montalban.

Why do you keep posting info that doesn't do a thing to support your stance?

Really? Because the time-line changed, try and follow along. Both Spocks are still the same physically (no, not talking about muscle mass)

This should be good. I suspect it's another case of you not understand the complexities.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Edit - Also, based on Robtard's logic, I'd kick the asses of both Khans because I have even more muscles.

If you want to show off your arms you don't have to try and friend-troll me for it. Just show them 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
You said they were different because they don't look the same. Because Cumberbatch is not Montalban.

Why do you keep posting info that doesn't do a thing to support your stance?

Really? Because the time-line changed. Both Spocks are still the same physically (no, not talking about muscle mass)

This should be good. I suspect it's another case of you not understand the complexities.

Yes, it does. You. It being bright enough to understand what an alternate reality is the problem.

No, they aren't since their experiences are different.

Just like Uhura and Spock. Their relationship is different due to the differences in their characters. They are different characters because of their different experiences. Experiences shape us into the individuals we are.

The quote from Spock. Your path is yours to walk and yours alone.

He doesn't say ours he says yours. Completely separate characters with different experiences. They share the same bday but ever since the narada came into the universe it radically altered the universes path.

Game. Set. Match.

So just like I said, it's another case of you not understanding.

Let he help you: Spock was telling his younger self that his (Quinto) life is his to live. Meaning that while they're physically (no, still not talking about muscle mass) the same person, Quinto-Spock will do his own thing and Nimoy-Spock will not be there to affect it.

Imagine it like cloning, while clones are physically (no, still not talking about muscle mass) the same if exactly genetically copied, they can have different life experiences. That's what happened when the time-line split. Same characters, different paths.

#gottem yet again

Originally posted by Robtard
If you want to show off your arms you don't have to try and friend-troll me for it. Just show them 👆

There's a picture thread for that with a much bigger audience of people.

Your logic is flawed, yet again.

#gottem

Just admit your muscle argument was shitty, at best. Then admit NuKhan has better feats. Then concede the thread. Then apologize to Quan.

Then let Quan have his moment.

The sad thing is Quan will think you're actually trolling me by applying one of his silly arguments as being mine.

Originally posted by Robtard
So just like I said, it's another case of you not understanding.

Let he help you: Spock was telling his younger self that his (Quinto) life is his to live. Meaning that while they're physically (no, still not talking about muscle mass) the same person, Quinto-Spock will do his own thing and Nimoy-Spock will not be there to affect it.

Imagine it like cloning, while clones are physically (no, still not talking about muscle mass) the same if exactly genetically copied, they can have different life experiences. That's what happened when the time-line split. Same characters, different paths.

#gottem yet again

And we see with the clones their abilities are vastly different as well as is their motivation, desires.

Their experiences are entirely different as individuals. You still don't get it. What training, values, experiences each clone has makes them unique from the rest despite their shared DNA.

If one clone sits on his ass while another trains his ass off they aren't capable of the same things. Actions matter.

Originally posted by dadudemon
There's a picture thread for that with a much bigger audience of people.

Your logic is flawed, yet again.

#gottem

Just admit your muscle argument was shitty, at best. Then admit NuKhan has better feats. Then concede the thread. Then apologize to Quan.

Then let Quan have his moment.

Start panicking Robbie.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong. You don't grasp the point. If one ddm works out while the other doesn't they won't be capable of saying the same thing. Nimoy Spock gave advice due to his own difficulty with his own version of Khan. Both are separate characters and have completely different experiences. That's what makes them separate individuals. They don't share the same memories or experiences.

And we see with the clones their abilities are vastly different as well as is their motivation, desires.

Their experiences are entirely different as individuals. You still don't get it. What training, values, experiences each clone has makes them unique from the rest despite their shared DNA.

If one clone sits on his ass while another trains his ass off they aren't capable of the same things. Actions matter.

You still don't understand what I meant with "physically" (it wasn't about muscle mass) and are doing loops trying to make it about "life experiences" when that was explained on page 1 when you specially made it about the actors looking different.

And yes, DDM and his clone would be the same physically (no, not talking about muscle mass), they'd just have different life experiences. The same as both Khans and both Spocks. Same characters physically (no, not talking about muscle mass).

Originally posted by Robtard
You still don't understand what I meant with "physically" (it wasn't about muscle mass) and are doing loops trying to make it about "life experiences" when that was explained on page 1 when you specially made it about the actors looking different.

And yes, DDM and his clone would be the same physically (no, not talking about muscle mass), they'd just have different life experiences. The same as both Khans and both Spocks. Same characters physically (no, not talking about muscle mass).

They wouldn't have the same conditioning, body fat, muscle mass, sleep patterns, etc. everything would be different since their experiences are completely different.

If one ddm ate like shit and didn't exercise his body would be shit compared to the one that trained, exercised, etc.

If I choose to exercise or be lazy my body vastly changes. Health matters. My body would change despite the shared DNA. So ones actions, experiences shape our minds and our bodies.

To say eating potato chips for months or eating and training and het reach the conclusion they are the same is asinine.

You are too dumb to get it. Shared DNA to you means exact equals. Actions don't matter to Robbie.

Again, I wasn't referring to "muscle mass", you commented without understanding and did flips and are still doing flips. Claimed that different actors means different characters because they look different.

LoL, look how angry you are at being wrong again.

They're still the same character, you're just going to have to deal with this at some point, little-guy. Two different actors, same character. It happens.

Originally posted by Robtard
Again, I wasn't referring to "muscle mass", you commented without understanding and did flips and are still doing flips. Claimed that different actors means different characters because they look different.

LoL, look how angry you are at being wrong again.

They're still the same character, you're just going to have to deal with this at some point, little-guy. Two different actors, same character. It happens.

Actions matter. Feats matter.

NuKhan's feats humiliate Old Khan's feats.

No, they aren't. Their expertise vastly differ despite their shared DNA. Just like with the clones. Your own example backfired since they aren't all equal.

😂

Incorrect, I proved my point and showed how your's is wrong.

We're not discussing a Vs match at the moment.

See above.

Who said "equal" in that manner? Oh, you did in another attempt to shift away from your original position which was laughed at.

They're still the same character, you're just going to have to deal with this at some point, little-guy. Two different actors, same character. It happens.

Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect, I proved my point and showed how your's is wrong.

We're not discussing a Vs match at the moment.

See above.

Who said "equal" in that manner? Oh, you did in another attempt to shift away from your original position which was laughed at.

They're still the same character, you're just going to have to deal with this at some point, little-guy. Two different actors, same character. It happens.

Sharing the same DNA doesn't make them the same character just like with the clones. Each individual is their own person with different experiences, feats, etc.

They are only the same character if they share the same memories, experiences.

Sharing the same DNA doesn't make them the same character. 😂

Same starting points different paths. Your path is yours and yours alone.

Good thing I didn't bring up equality 👆

Physically (no, not talking about muscle mass) they're the same character. Life experiences diverged at point 'X' as noted on page 1.

No, as explained.

No, as explained.

I already broke down Spock's comments and what it meant.

Originally posted by Robtard
Good thing I didn't bring up equality 👆

Physically (no, not talking about muscle mass) they're the same character. Life experiences diverged at point 'X' as noted on page 1.

No, as explained.

No, as explained.

I already broke down Spock's comments and what it meant.

So you admit they are different due to different life experiences.

Spock meant he alone had to walk his own journey because he is his own Spock. He has his own experiences to live through which will differ from his experiences.

Having the same DNA doesn't mean you have the same experiences. As proven by your clone point. They are different despite the shared DNA. 🙂

Back to your dishonest tactics, since it's all you have left. Cost: Zero dollars.

"Life experiences" being different was explained/covered on page 1. Cost: Zero Dollars

Recapping what I said to you in regards to Spock and passing it off and your own is another lousy tactic. Cost: Zero Dollars

You having to resort to these cheap tactics means you know you're wrong and that works for me. Cost: Priceless