Originally posted by RobtardSo you acknowledge life experiences being different has to mean different characters. Clear pivotal events are different.
Back to your dishonest tactics, since it's all you have left. Cost: Zero dollars."Life experiences" being different was explained/covered on page 1. Cost: Zero Dollars
Recapping what I said to you in regards to Spock and passing it off and your own is another lousy tactic. Cost: Zero Dollars
You having to resort to these cheap tactics means you know you're wrong and that works for me. Cost: Priceless
You also said the clones result from the same DNA. That's true but them having different abilities, personalities, Experiences means they different characters.
Undeniable. You're a clod. You're too dumb to get it.
Originally posted by Robtard
ToS Kirk is superhuman when he needs.-Gets stabbed in the back/kidney with a shank, but doesn't bleed.
-Goes H2H with a Gorn, who is strong enough to throw large boulders.
-Handles himself somewhat well against a horny Spock while suffering high altitude sickness due to being in Vulcan's thinner atmosphere.
It should also be noted that ToS Kirk had to resort to a makeshift club in order to beat Khan.
Kirk is not superhuman, and give him a club to use against new Khan, and he would literally shove it right up Kirks butt.
I like Old Khan better, but clearly New Khan was severely amped from his original version, saying otherwise is done just to rile up quanchi (which I like, cause I think hes an idiot, but that doesnt mean he cant be on the right side once in a blue moon). 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112Oooh looks like I hit a nerve!
You are an ignorant fanboy. NuKirk would beat Old Kirk.NuKhan stomps old Khan.
NuKhan would beat the shit out of Old Khan and Old Kirk at the same time with relative ease.
Why be mad that you're stupid. Your problem.
NuKhan would get wrecked by OldBones. Sorry bud.
Phucking lmao, it must be infuriating to constantly see your favorite characters get @ssrammed on these forums.
Be mad
Originally posted by DTM
Kirk is not superhuman, and give him a club to use against new Khan, and he would literally shove it right up Kirks butt.
Shatner Kirk is indeed superhuman when he needs, as noted by his superhuman feats at times. Those feats are undeniable.
Interesting theory though, Khan may have been played as a homosexual in the alt timeline after the split. Not the first time Benedict has played a gay character. Good catch, if so 👆
Originally posted by Robtard
Shatner Kirk is indeed superhuman when he needs, as noted by his superhuman feats at times. Those feats are undeniable.Interesting theory though, Khan may have been played as a homosexual in the alt timeline after the split. Not the first time Benedict has played a gay character. Good catch, if so 👆
No, Im sorry, this isnt true. Kirk is not superhuman, like normal human characters as McClane or Rambo, he sometimes pushes the boundaries on what a "normal" human should be able to do, high end feats that like many other such characters see them push themselves to their limits, but clearly Shatner Kirk is just human, nothing actually superhuman about him. New Khan is Very much enhanced human, neithe Kirk (in fact, both Kirks) wouldnt beat new Khan in a HTH fight.
Well, even so, Kirk is never superhuman, he goes beyond his limits to win the day (which is quite normal for heroes of his caliber), but I wouldnt call anything he did superhuman in level (not technically anyway). Khan on the other hand is definitely well above human, physically and mentally, and while I HATE quanchi fanboy-love of him here, he would solidly beat Shatner Kirk in a fight, who did already beat old school Khan.
Originally posted by DTM
Well, even so, Kirk is never superhuman, he goes beyond his limits to win the day (which is quite normal for heroes of his caliber), but I wouldnt call anything he did superhuman in level (not technically anyway).Khan on the other hand is definitely well above human, physically and mentally, and while I HATE quanchi fanboy-love of him here, he would solidly beat Shatner Kirk in a fight, who did already beat old school Khan.
Not bleeding after being shanked in the kidney area isn't considered "superhuman"? Come on, man. You know it is and Shatner Kirk is superhuman when he needs, it's a demand type of thing. Not a constant.
Khan's an augment and is superhuman, no one is contesting this and has nothing to do with what we're discussing at the moment above.
Originally posted by carthage
Iirc new Khan was pretty fast, but I don't recall him having a strength feat like breaking that console on his ship like old Khan did. I need to rewatch Wrath
Im pretty sure new Khan was enhanced all over physically, not just speed, but strength, toughness, endurance, etc. The guy was a real beast in a fight, much closer to MCU Capt American than old school Capt Kirk.
Well, we do know that Khan has enhanced speed, agility and toughness (those scenes are shown on screen), so Im assuming he would have enhanced strength as well (since he is supposed to have an enhanced overall physique, seems odd that strength would be left out to his other augmentations). Also, hes clearly physically superior to Spock, who supposedly 3x as strong as a human.
In checking YouTube for actual scenes, a case could be made for enhanced strength from the various scenes of hyper leaping he does throughout the movie. He also easily tossed Spock several feet into one of the sides of the ship they were fighting on, using just a single arm to do so. He then one punched Spock several feet away from him, and hes strong enough to crush a mans skull in his hands.
So while we never see him bend steel or burst through a wall using his strength, going off of all of the above, it would be very easy to assume his strength is enhanced (above human) as the rest of his physical traits are.