Darth Vader vs. Voldemort.

Originally posted by quanchi112
My spelling was fine and it was autocorrect, dummy,

No, I don't. Voldemort kills him instantly. Han Solo fired off successive blasts that hit Vader. Voldemort wins with one shot.

😂

Evidence supports my claims. Again.

Again not my problem. Watch your mistakes.

Yes you did. When I showed you the proof you backed down and went on to overall power. Vader also countered those.

I'm still waiting for proof that Luke Skywalker's speed affected had significant impact on vader.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Again not my problem. Watch your mistakes.

Yes you did. When I showed you the proof you backed down and went on to overall power. Vader also countered those.

I'm still waiting for proof that Luke Skywalker's speed affected had significant impact on vader.

No, you never showed overall proof and we see Kenobi resist Vader's tk in rots. 🙂

He still got hit so once he's hit by the death curse he's dead. He can't counter that. You're like brain dead.

We see him best him and the speed was a factor. We see Vader is slow in comparison. Quit denying facts, kid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then it isn't spelling and I'll do what I want, kid.

No, you never showed overall proof and we see Kenobi resist Vader's tk in rots. 🙂

He still got hit so once he's hit by the death curse he's dead. He can't counter that. You're like brain dead.

We see him best him and the speed was a factor. We see Vader is slow in comparison. Quit denying facts, kid.

Haha your getting angry. 😂 Good times.

Again you flee. I said I showed proof for TK. Not overall power. Also I believe this is ROTJ Vader. This Vader is more powerful in the force. More experienced so what happened on Mustafar is irrelevant as this Vader is much different, tactically, dueling wise, force powers, and everything.

That's one way he can win. Have you ever seen ?#/10 or someone take the majority. Also whose to say he can block it with his lightsaber or evade it? We see normal witches and wizards,humans evade it.

No it wasn't. If it was anything it woudl be a strength problem. Post your proof that speed was a factor in his defeat.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Haha your getting angry. 😂 Good times.

Again you flee. I said I showed proof for TK. Not overall power. Also I believe this is ROTJ Vader. This Vader is more powerful in the force. More experienced so what happened on Mustafar is irrelevant as this Vader is much different, tactically, dueling wise, force powers, and everything.

That's one way he can win. Have you ever seen ?#/10 or someone take the majority. Also whose to say he can block it with his lightsaber or evade it? We see normal witches and wizards,humans evade it.

No it wasn't. If it was anything it woudl be a strength problem. Post your proof that speed was a factor in his defeat.

What tk feats does he have in rotj ? He also lost the vast majority of midichlorians after Kenobi cleaved him. He's also much slower and Han showed quicker reflexes.

Vader didn't evade Han's blast thus the evidence supports my claims while you say nonsense.

I already have cited it but you ignore Luke being far quicker than his slow and mentally weak father.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah.

What tk feats does he have in rotj ? He also lost the vast majority of midichlorians after Kenobi cleaved him. He's also much slower and Han showed quicker reflexes.

Vader didn't evade Han's blast thus the evidence supports my claims while you say nonsense.

I already have cited it but you ignore Luke being far quicker than his slow and mentally weak father.

All feats from the moment he gets to the suit to ROTJ count as between rebels and ROTJ is considered his prime. And he can move objects with his mind without breaking his saber movements, force push opponents, choke opponents without hand movements, lift very large objects with ease, saber throw, and other abilities. He did lose a lot of midiclorian so, but never before did he retain more power than when he was in his suit.

He blocked it, with his mechanical hands.

No you didn't. You just said Luke Skywalker and that was it. Luke's speed has never been an issue for Vader.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
All feats from the moment he gets to the suit to ROTJ count as between rebels and ROTJ is considered his prime. And he can move objects with his mind without breaking his saber movements, force push opponents, choke opponents without hand movements, lift very large objects with ease, saber throw, and other abilities. He did lose a lot of midiclorian so, but never before did he retain more power than when he was in his suit.

He blocked it, with his mechanical hands.

No you didn't. You just said Luke Skywalker and that was it. Luke's speed has never been an issue for Vader.

So based off the evidence he gets hit and dies. I agree.

Yes, it was. Watch the films, noob.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is still slower reacting whereas Voldemort has quicker movements and superior ranged combat. He lacks the force powers though and just has the clunkier harder to maneuver suit.

So based off the evidence he gets hit and dies. I agree.

Yes, it was. Watch the films, noob.

He first sentence I can agree with. However Vader still has his lightsaber which can block spells, and Vader can TK his wand. Also what's to stop Vader from dodging Avada Kedavra. We have seen average humans evade it. Vader has force augmentation and can move faster than regular humans.( Luke has force augmentation) So really he could evade it. For the Han Solo argument to work, you would have to prove Avada Kedavra travels as fast as Han's laser blast.

You have to prove Avada Kedavra moves just as fast as those laser's.

Prove it. Post your proof.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He first sentence I can agree with. However Vader still has his lightsaber which can block spells, and Vader can TK his wand. Also what's to stop Vader from dodging Avada Kedavra. We have seen average humans evade it. Vader has force augmentation and can move faster than regular humans.( Luke has force augmentation) So really he could evade it. For the Han Solo argument to work, you would have to prove Avada Kedavra travels as fast as Han's laser blast.

You have to prove Avada Kedavra moves just as fast as those laser's.

Prove it. Post your proof.

I have evidence he doesn't block the spell and gets hit aka Han Solo. Show me Vader dodging lasers. Your move, kiddo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Show someone tking his and away otherwise it's just conjecture without any evidence to support it.

I have evidence he doesn't block the spell and gets hit aka Han Solo. Show me Vader dodging lasers. Your move, kiddo.

He took Han's gun away.

He actually blocked it with tutaminis. Also wheres the evidience that avada kedavra is just as fast as a blaster since thats what he was to "slow" to block. You don't have evidence. Evidence is something that proves something. This was a one time thing, with a blaster, which I'm still waiting on proof that its just as fast as a blaster.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He took Han's gun away.

He actually blocked it with tutaminis. Also wheres the evidience that avada kedavra is just as fast as a blaster since thats what he was to "slow" to block. You don't have evidence. Evidence is something that proves something. This was a one time thing, with a blaster, which I'm still waiting on proof that its just as fast as a blaster.

Tutaminis wasn't created at that point in time. He blocked it with his hand.

My claim is proven via the evidence yours isn't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
After he got hit. One kill curse and Vader dies. Game, set, match.

Tutaminis wasn't created at that point in time. He blocked it with his hand.

My claim is proven via the evidence yours isn't.

Not necessarily. One,Avada Kedavra isn't as fast as a blaster. Normal humans dodge avid cheddar. Vader has augmented speed, and force perception.

You know it wasn't created how?

Your "evidence" is a situation with different factors.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Not necessarily. One,Avada Kedavra isn't as fast as a blaster. Normal humans dodge avid cheddar. Vader has augmented speed, and force perception.

You know it wasn't created how?

Your "evidence" is a situation with different factors.

The fact the abilit wasn't created by that point in time and I've seen the script.

Vader lied in wait and was still too slow to react. Awful showing. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Vader isn't a normal human and what normal human avoided the kill curse ? Vader is slow in that suit. I already posted a clip showing he gets tagged.

The fact the abilit wasn't created by that point in time and I've seen the script.

Vader lied in wait and was still too slow to react. Awful showing. 😂

Harry Potter in the goblet of fire. We also see wizards evade other spells. It's no reason to believe any of them are faster than Avada Kedavra. Actaully you didn't post anything you just said it. Post proof that Avada Kedavra is faster than a blaster.

Again what proof do you have the ability wasn't created? Send your proof.

Considering he wasn't in a combative situation why woudl he even attempt it. We've seen Vader react differently in different situations. He's being dropped into this match cold, so he would have his saber out for safe measures. Add in his force precognition and force enhanced speed, he can defintily evade something we see average witches and wizards avoid.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Harry Potter in the goblet of fire. We also see wizards evade other spells. It's no reason to believe any of them are faster than Avada Kedavra. Actaully you didn't post anything you just said it. Post proof that Avada Kedavra is faster than a blaster.

Again what proof do you have the ability wasn't created? Send your proof.

Considering he wasn't in a combative situation why woudl he even attempt it. We've seen Vader react differently in different situations. He's being dropped into this match cold, so he would have his saber out for safe measures. Add in his force precognition and force enhanced speed, he can defintily evade something we see average witches and wizards avoid.

The fact it wasn't through up until years later and wasn't mentioned in the actual script.

He was in a combative situation because he laid in wait and was attacked. Are you an idiot ?

Voldemort wins, easily. Evidence >>>your fanboyism.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wizards are t normal humans they are wizards. They aren't wearing cyborg suits which slow them down. We also see they have to block the majority of the kill curse they just can't jump out of the way but it's irrelevant. Vader got tagged by Han. Evidence.

The fact it wasn't through up until years later and wasn't mentioned in the actual script.

He was in a combative situation because he laid in wait and was attacked. Are you an idiot ?

Voldemort wins, easily. Evidence >>>your fanboyism.

Yet the author of this world of wizards says an muggle with a shotgun could beat a wizard. Also wizards don't have any physical enhancements at least without potions. They have natural human physique with some having quicker speeds and greater builds due to being on sports teams or working out. Vader makes up with this with force augmentation. Majority. That men's there are still times when they do evade. Seeing as Vader is faster, he can easily dodge more than a majority of those spells, or even block and deflect the spells back at them with his lightsaber. That's not evidence. That's just an irrelevant scene in the movie you call evidence.

Doesn't have to be mentioned. Basketball wasn't always called basketball, but it had different forms passed from different cultures. Doesn't mean basketball never existed. Also tutamins blocks energy, lightning as seen by Yoda, and blasters as seen by Vader.

He wasn't really expecting an attack. He had Lando leading them to him with clones to back the, up. He wasn't there for a combative scenario. Just shows how adaptable he is. Also this is different. This is 100 combative scenario. He will be dropped into this arena with no information on Voldemrt so naturally he would pull his saber out at the start.

Again you haven't provided any evidence. I don't disagree Voldemort wins. I just say he wins 5/10 battles. I say a tie. Hard to say really.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Yet the author of this world of wizards says an muggle with a shotgun could beat a wizard. Also wizards don't have any physical enhancements at least without potions. They have natural human physique with some having quicker speeds and greater builds due to being on sports teams or working out. Vader makes up with this with force augmentation. Majority. That men's there are still times when they do evade. Seeing as Vader is faster, he can easily dodge more than a majority of those spells, or even block and deflect the spells back at them with his lightsaber. That's not evidence. That's just an irrelevant scene in the movie you call evidence.

Doesn't have to be mentioned. Basketball wasn't always called basketball, but it had different forms passed from different cultures. Doesn't mean basketball never existed. Also tutamins blocks energy, lightning as seen by Yoda, and blasters as seen by Vader.

He wasn't really expecting an attack. He had Lando leading them to him with clones to back the, up. He wasn't there for a combative scenario. Just shows how adaptable he is. Also this is different. This is 100 combative scenario. He will be dropped into this arena with no information on Voldemrt so naturally he would pull his saber out at the start.

Again you haven't provided any evidence. I don't disagree Voldemort wins. I just say he wins 5/10 battles. I say a tie. Hard to say really.

You just speculate without proof while I have direct proof to corroborate my claims. You don't. /thread

So he needs to be ready and can't just get ready for a combative situation. The shit you say is retarded.
Han Solo blast is evidence, dummy.

Originally posted by Impediment
Vader Force grabs the wand from Voldemort's hand and snaps it in half.

Voldemort is Force choked.

Vader doesn't even have to move.

/thread.

Agreed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is against the rules and only applies to book versions and Vader doesn't have a gun.

You just speculate without proof while I have direct proof to corroborate my claims. You don't. /thread

So he needs to be ready and can't just get ready for a combative situation. The shit you say is retarded.
Han Solo blast is evidence, dummy.

If anything the movie versions are weaker. In the book adaptation of the order of the Phoenix Dumbleodre demonstrated more aggressiveness and power than in the movie. Nah, Vader just has the force, and a suit that can block a light hit from a LIGHTSBAER.

So in other words you co need.

It's a match he knows nothing about. He doesn't know about magic(Harry potter magic) so of course he has his lightsaber out.
No it's not. It's a one time thing that has different situational factors.

Where's the proof Avada Kedavra is as fast as a blaster huh?

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
If anything the movie versions are weaker. In the book adaptation of the order of the Phoenix Dumbleodre demonstrated more aggressiveness and power than in the movie. Nah, Vader just has the force, and a suit that can block a light hit from a LIGHTSBAER.

So in other words you co need.

It's a match he knows nothing about. He doesn't know about magic(Harry potter magic) so of course he has his lightsaber out.
No it's not. It's a one time thing that has different situational factors.

Where's the proof Avada Kedavra is as fast as a blaster huh?

Co need ? Make sense.

Prove he does. He didn't here and he laid in wait.

So you ignore Disney canon again like the typical fanboy you are.

It doesn't have to be as multiple shots hit Vader and only one is required here.

Holy shit. This rivalry is intense.