Originally posted by Lord Lucien
"We need a new civilization and characters. What shall we do?""More Sith."
"But there's already so many Sith! Everyone already knows how it all ends."
"I said MOAR SITH! No one will expect more Sith."
"But where could they get a navy so vast and so quickly?"
"We need a super factory that produces ships rapidly"
"Similar to the star forge? Well what's it called?"
"The.... Uhh..... Sun Machine?"
Creativity at its finest
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Honestly, if any other Sith who formed an empire had 1400 years to work with, they could almost certainly build a second one as well, so I'm not really seeing the godwank present in these actions.The new expansion is probably gonna wank the shit out of Vitiate though, knowing SWTOR writers.
It depends when he started building this empire. But the fact that he's built two empires in a span of 1400 years simultaneously, is unheard of. One as himself, one as his voice.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
@Tempest you make a good point. Then again, it's easier to come up with an army of manufactured droids or clones than it is to come up with an army of force users.
Perhaps, but then you have to factor in the vast number of worlds, organic troops, and various commercial entities that also comprised these factions.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Perhaps, but then you have to factor in the vast number of worlds, organic troops, and various commercial entities that also comprised these factions.
All of which already had the infrastructure, manpower and resources needed for develop those militaries. Vitiate started from almost scratch with his Sith Empire, which is why it took so long to create. And he pulled the Zuul Empire straight out of his ass or something. I have no clue where they could come from tbh.
Nah. Vitiate started out with an army of trained Force users and the remnants of the previous Sith Empire, working cooperatively to achieve his goals in a vast expanse of space. Sidious had to work in secret to avoid arousing the suspicion of authorities and the Jedi order.
Both had access to resources and infrastructure. But Sidious had a lot less time, a lot more to manage, and greater constraints.
Sheev is a lot more impressive, honestly.
Nah. Vitiate started out with an army of trained Force users and the remnants of the previous Sith Empire, working cooperatively to achieve his goals in a vast expanse of space. Sidious had to work in secret to avoid arousing the suspicion of authorities and the Jedi order.
Sidious had a lot less time but seeing as how he already had the 1,000 year old infrastructure in place, while Vitiate grew two empires from scratch, Vitiate seems more impressive.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Nah. Vitiate started out with an army of trained Force users and the remnants of the previous Sith Empire, working cooperatively to achieve his goals in a vast expanse of space. Sidious had to work in secret to avoid arousing the suspicion of authorities and the Jedi order.Both had access to resources and infrastructure. But Sidious had a lot less time, a lot more to manage, and greater constraints.
Sheev is a lot more impressive, honestly.
He had to build everything from scratch. Conquer the entire empire from one planet and a handful of ships. A vast expanse of space that he owned none of and need to spend centuries bringing together. Sidious just cooped already existing things and then developed them. Of course it takes a lot less time, because he doesn't have to literally build all these things up from dust and he has a lot more to manage because he already has an entire galaxies worth of resources to call upon.
All Sidious had to do is get himself elected Chancellor and then make a speech to become emperor. Vitiate had to actually build an empire to become one.