Originally posted by Galan007
^ To expand on the SSJ4 portion of that post: not only did SSJ4 allow Goku to trounce Super Baby Vegeta 2 with lulz-worthy ease, but it put him roughly on par with Golden Oozaru Baby, who was [b]10x> SBV2... Which means the SSJ4 multiplier was well in excess of 10x SSJ3.#craycray. [/B]
AND that was before he got a power boost by absorbing ki from the others
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
If you guys played Budokai Tenkaichi series, Super Vegetto is the 2nd strongest character after SSJ4 Gogeta. Omega Shenron is the 3rd.I know it's the games, but Toriyama had a hand on it. He probably was the one who gauged their power levels. That has to account to something.
That series is not canon to the actual manga. In those game I can whoop SSJ4 Gogeta's with 1st form Frieza. Guess that means Frieza is the most powerful now right?
You're making a huge assumption that Akira was the one who made the gauge.
Originally posted by juggerman
Hope this answers your question about who is more powerful. Props to Galan:With all that being said, nothing showed Beerus even being 10x as strong as Majin Buu. Remember Gohan was less than twice as strong as Cell and treated him like a weakling. Possibly the most one sided fight in DBZ besides Beerus owning the Z-Warriors was Frieza vs Nail and that was only a difference of around 13x iirc and Nail never harmed Frieza or got the upper hand. Beerus on the other hand WAS harmed by Vegeta and Vegeta gained the upperhand for a brief moment. It should also be noted than Frieza was using less than 1% of his power against Nail
Beerus owned Super Saiyan 3 Goku with a touch, one shot koed Fat Buu and stomped the Z fighters. Lol, that's more impressive than anything you've said. I can't picture anyone you've name touching Goku at his Prime koing him. No one.
Originally posted by carver9
Beerus owned Super Saiyan 3 Goku with a touch, one shot koed Fat Buu and stomped the Z fighters. Lol, that's more impressive than anything you've said. I can't picture anyone you've name touching Goku at his Prime koing him. No one.
Clearly you didn't actually read what was written. SSJ3 Goku was less than twice as strong as Buu. That's confirmed by the fight itself since Buu was able to put up quite a fight but Goku was stated to be able to kill Buu if he wanted but let the fight drag out too long.
GT Goku however was stronger than Buu at BASE and his SSJ transformation boosted him over 100x stronger.
Now we have Beerus that trolled a guy less than twice as strong as Buu but(and this is a big but) was injured by Vegeta who was just a bit stronger than Goku during his rage boost. So if Vegeta was less than twice as strong as Goku, and was able to harm Beerus, Imagine what someone 100x stronger could do. And that's not even counting the additional boosts Goku got via subsequent transformations and then fusion on top of that.
This is a no contest
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Which don't mean shit anymore.The gods have better feats and actual feats that matter.
We are way beyond gt, lets keep talking about a horrible non canon series though.
It means a lot actually
Feats are fine but DB in general is about power scaling. Frieza has better feats than Cell but isn't considered stronger. Roshi has a better feat than Vegetto. Again feats aren't the end all
If you don't want to talk about GT then you might want to saty out of threads featuring characters from it. Just a thought 👆
Originally posted by juggerman
It means a lot actuallyFeats are fine but DB in general is about power scaling. Frieza has better feats than Cell but isn't considered stronger. Roshi has a better feat than Vegetto. Again feats aren't the end all
If you don't want to talk about GT then you might want to saty out of threads featuring characters from it. Just a thought 👆
Changes nothing, the gods are beyond gt. Thats the whole point.
GT never happened as far as Akira is concerned.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Changes nothing, the gods are beyond gt. Thats the whole point.GT never happened as far as Akira is concerned.
They aren't tho. At what point was any god 100x stronger than Buu? The answer in never btw
GT never happening doesn't matter here. Broly never happened canonly but we can still have a Broly vs Cell thread. Is this your first day or something?
Originally posted by juggerman
They aren't tho. At what point was any god 100x stronger than Buu? The answer in never btwGT never happening doesn't matter here. Broly never happened canonly but we can still have a Broly vs Cell thread. Is this your first day or something?
Resorting to insults? Here I thought we were friends having a discussion.