Charleston Shooting-Nine Dead in Church

Originally posted by Bardock42
You haven't pointed out anything, that's what Lestov and I have been asking for.

I'm fully convinced, now, that you are extremely critical of Obama and his administration. You've successfully convinced me of that position in 5 posts. awesome

Gosh, you moved this conversation along very quickly, sir!

Edit - Can we be done? Please say we are done with this. Let's get back to racist white people.

Originally posted by Lestov16
LOL. If your list is correct, there will be no argument from me. If you're expecting an argument, that can only mean that you know your list is bullshit and you were making false claims you are unable to back.

Please provide this list. Again, if it is actually true, you have nothing to worry about. Otherwise you come off as a lying coward. So list please.

Nah, middle school "you're just a wimp" insults won't convince me to start a flame war.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'm fully convinced, now, that you are extremely critical of Obama and his administration. You've successfully convinced me of that position in 5 posts. awesome

Gosh, you moved this conversation along very quickly, sir!

Edit - Can we be done? Please say we are done with this. Let's get back to racist white people.

I take it from this that you'd put me on your list of Obama apologists, that feels a bit absurd to me given my track record of basically disagreeing with everything he's done and condemning his presidency as extremely ineffective.

We can be done whenever you either post the list or don't reply to requests for this list.

You said you had a list, and now you are refusing to provide proof. This reminds me of a certain....situation I had to help you with a while back, where you knowingly made false claims and refused to back them. Unless you provide this list, I will know for a fact that you are again lying out of your ass.

EDIT: hope you don't see my mentioning of "the situation" as some kind of betrayal of trust ddm. But claiming I will inevitably argue about your list means you don't trust my objectivity, which feels somewhat disrespectful. That is why I want to see this list more than ever at this point.

Originally posted by Lestov16
You said you had a list, and now you are refusing to provide proof.

Posted, edited, and removed.

Deal with it.

You should have just been faster to catch that list before I deleted it.

Edit - I forgot to mention that these people you people are concerned about are "known" to others, not just me. It's not even my original idea. I was just enlightened to the notion that KMC does far too much Obama apologizing.

I'm confused what DDM lied about, cause nothing showed anything of that nature. But people really would just not go on the Internet and lie any more then Obama said he ended the wars on national tv.

"Let's stop saying ****** by saying ******" BO

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Originally posted by dadudemon
Posted, edited, and removed.

Deal with it.

You should have just been faster to catch that list before I deleted it.

Uh huh

Originally posted by dadudemon
Posted, edited, and removed.

Deal with it.

You should have just been faster to catch that list before I deleted it.

Edit - I forgot to mention that these people you people are concerned about are "known" to others, not just me. It's not even my original idea. I was just enlightened to the notion that KMC does far too much Obama apologizing.

We are dealing with it, by continuing to ask you to provide at least some foundation for your bogus claims. And you keep weaselling around, if you are not gonna post it just don't post it.

It's like people that post things like "Ugh, I had a horrible day at work" and then get mad when people ask them about it. But since you have a pattern of clownish, childish behaviour like that it's not surprising.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I take it from this that you'd put me on your list of Obama apologists, that feels a bit absurd to me given my track record of basically disagreeing with everything he's done and condemning his presidency as extremely ineffective.

We can be done whenever you either post the list or don't reply to requests for this list.

He must of really had an impact on you when he came to Germany and apologized for us. Were hand jobs involved?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He must of really had an impact on you when he came to Germany and apologized for us. Were hand jobs involved?

I am not aware of what you are referring to.

Originally posted by Lestov16
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And Obama has killed more people with drones then anyone else which you have graced over. Also he never got us out of the war. So I don't see why you agreeing.

I have criticised Obama on multiple occasions, on this very message board, for his extreme extension of Drone strikes and the negative impact this has on stability in the middle east.

The problem is that people often disagree with you on Obama, because you demonise him on everything. You disagree with the most benign or common sense things as long as Obama is involved.

He reigns airel Fire from above and Lest is in agreement with him. He also bullshited the voters for his second term that he got us out of the wars...he didn't, Bush had the agreement made before he left office. Then Obama came in caused more mania with Lybia and Yemen and Egypt. And the drone program is 100 years ahead where it used to be. Hell they have drones here now.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
And Obama has killed more people with drones then anyone else which you have graced over. Also he never got us out of the war. So I don't see why you agreeing.

And before you jump on this, let me clarify that I'm not saying that because Bush started it that absolves Obama in any way for intensifying the program, I'm simply trying to gauge how much of your outrage stems from the drone program itself and how much stems from Obama as a person.

Ok, well, that's enough of that- does anyone have anything on-topic to say?

Surprised TI has jack shit to say about Obama's aggressive foreign policy when TI has been jingoistically criticising Obama for removing troops from Iraq and not doing enough to stop ISIS. Seems he just likes criticising Obama no matter what he does.

Spoiler:
but what else is to be expected from a glorified sock account?

EDIT: as per Ush, to get back on topic, if a black guy kills people he's a thug, if the killer is middle eastern, he's a terrorist, but if the killer is white, only now do we recognize psychological problems?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He also bullshited the voters for his second term that he got us out of the wars...he didn't, Bush had the agreement made before he left office.

Yeah, I remember when Rob and I taught you this after you continued to insist that it was awful that he got the US out of the wars and they should have continued.

[edit] I suppose this would be better suited for an Obama themed thread, rather than the Charleston Massacre one

Originally posted by Lestov16
EDIT: as per Ush, to get back on topic, if a black guy kills people he's a thug, if the killer is middle eastern, he's a terrorist, but if the killer is white, only now do we recognize psychological problems?

Yeah, the trope of the troubled, but oh so intelligent, white mass murderer needs to go away.

The focus on mental illness whenever there's a massacre perpetrated by a white person is also pretty harmful for the many, many non-criminal people dealing with mental illness.

I can't help but think that if this was a lone wolf terrorist attack by an Arab, he would be immediately identified as a terrorist, but since it was a terrorist attack by a white person, he's "a mentally troubled youth". Don't recall anybody talking about Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's mental problems.