Charleston Shooting-Nine Dead in Church

Well, back on topic, I think while it's good that the people of South Carolina are finally having a serious discussion about how appropriate it is to fly the symbol of separatism (and racism, for many) on government property, did nine people really need to die for that to happen?

People shouldn't have to try to substantiate a link between the shooting and the flag (I don't personally think there's much of one--he had other symbols, so even if that flag didn't exist he'd still have done the shooting) to demonstrate that it shouldn't fly over state buildings. It's simply a divisive symbol that only represents a rather backward segment of the state's (white) population.

Even if every last white South Carolinan believed that the Confederate battle flag celebrated their "noble heritage," South Carolina is still 30% black. You can't fly a flag that's inherently offensive to almost a third of the population.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I can't help but think that if this was a lone wolf terrorist attack by an Arab, he would be immediately identified as a terrorist, but since it was a terrorist attack by a white person, he's "a mentally troubled youth". Don't recall anybody talking about Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's mental problems.

Yeah, it's ridiculous. This guy literally is trying to change public perceptions and policy by terrorising people with mass murders and the racist media can't get itself to say "yeah...I guess this is terrorism, even though we will still pretend that it's mostly a Muslim thing"

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Well, back on topic, I think while it's good that the people of South Carolina are finally having a serious discussion about how appropriate it is to fly the symbol of separatism (and racism, for many) on government property, did nine people really need to die for that to happen?

People shouldn't have to try to substantiate a link between the shooting and the flag (I don't personally think there's much of one--he had other symbols, so even if that flag didn't exist he'd still have done the shooting) to demonstrate that it shouldn't fly over state buildings. It's simply a divisive symbol that only represents a rather backward segment of the state's (white) population.

Even if every last white South Carolinan believed that the Confederate battle flag celebrated their "noble heritage," South Carolina is still 30% black. You can't fly a flag that's inherently offensive to almost a third of the population.

I read both Ebay and Amazon are banning the confederate war flag from their sites now. So, good on you, Dylann Roof, you got people to finally look at some socially acceptable racism and change it for the better.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
It could have been a hate religious killing. Or better yet, domestic terrorism.

Things come full circle in a circle jerk, Hmm I said the very same thing here 14 pages ago, and was criticized cause I didn't say it was racist right away without knowing all the facts.

Shame on you both.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Things come full circle in a circle jerk, Hmm I said the very same thing here 14 pages ago, and was criticized cause I didn't say it was racist right away without knowing all the facts.

Shame on you both.

Dude, I didn't criticise you for this, so why are you shaming me?

[edit]Looking back, no one even criticised you for that post...

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Things come full circle in a circle jerk, Hmm I said the very same thing here 14 pages ago, and was criticized cause I didn't say it was racist right away without knowing all the facts.

Shame on you both.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Dude, I didn't criticise you for this, so why are you shaming me?

[edit]Looking back, no one even criticised you for that post...

Read on.

Edit - Ush laid down the STFU smack down. Conversation done. List removed along with the reasons (and quotes from the people) why I put people on the "overly apologetic" list. Dammit. I spent 30 minutes making that post. 🙁

Dude, you weren't criticised for saying it might have been domestic terrorism, and definitely not by Lestov or me.

Why do you have to make yourself out to be a victim, instead of just being alright with you, Lestov and I agreeing on this issue?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Edit - Ush laid down the STFU smack down. Conversation done. List removed along with the reasons (and quotes from the people) why I put people on the "overly apologetic" list. Dammit. I spent 30 minutes making that post. 🙁

Ush has told people to drop it, if you want to discuss your silly game maybe make your own thread for it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Ush has told people to drop it...

Yeah, that's what my post says. lol

Originally posted by Bardock42
Dude, you weren't criticised for saying it might have been domestic terrorism, and definitely not by Lestov or me.

Why do you have to make yourself out to be a victim, instead of just being alright that with you, Lestov and I agreeing on this issue?

Fine, you both got me worked up, so I blamed it on you. My apologies. But phuck them wetlands🙂

Originally posted by Bardock42
I read both Ebay and Amazon are banning the confederate war flag from their sites now. So, good on you, Dylann Roof, you got people to finally look at some socially acceptable racism and change it for the better.

Nice, two huge businesses taking a stand.

Granted, I still feel private people should be allowed to wear the flag or fly it on private property, should they want to make themselves look like stupid assholes.

Originally posted by Robtard
Nice, two huge businesses taking a stand.

Granted, I still feel private people should be allowed to wear the flag or fly it on private property, should they want to make themselves look like stupid assholes.

Oh yeah, I do as well. I think people should be able to fly it, and then have to deal with the justified public reactions to their opinions.

I think it's good that companies take a stance of not supplying it though, and I think it's good that politicians take a stance against having it in any way condoned by government institutions.

A racist misfit - given a gun by his insanely stupid father - shoots dead a black pastor and eight of his black parishioners.

This happens in America, so guess which character in this evil is being blamed by National Rifle Association board member Charles L. Cotton?

Unbelievably, it’s the pastor, who is also a South Carolina State Senator who voted for more comprehensive background checks on gun sales.

Shhh the truth is dangerous and scary for some.

confederate flags have been removed from state buildings in alabama, as per governor's order. prepare for yet more fake outrage.

I am more pissed that they removed it from the roof top of the General Lee.

**** YOU YOU LEFTIST RACIST MONGER WHORES!

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]I am more pissed that they removed it from the roof top of the General Lee.

**** YOU YOU LEFTIST RACIST MONGER WHORES! [/B]

this must all be very traumatic for you, as we can clearly see by your colorful display of outrage.

Well I do tend to get emotionally envolved when I see a Beloved Childhood Icon dragged into some ass stupid political made up issue.