Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He immediately went political with it, before some families even been notified there loved ones passed away.Poor form.
Is this a fact that can be verified?
But I'd assume it's because mass murders like this keep happening and they possibly wouldn't if America had better gun control laws as being Obama's reason to speak up.
Originally posted by Robtard
Is this a fact that can be verified?But I'd assume it's because mass murders like this keep happening and they possibly wouldn't if America had better gun control laws as being Obama's reason to speak up.
Yes, watch his address to the nation. He went straight to talking about politics and gun control.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He immediately went political with it, before some families even been notified there loved ones passed away.Poor form.
What's wrong with you?
He was directly addressing the causes of the incident. He is saying absolutely true about it- we could do things to prevent incidents like this. And his 'political' points were entirely on that point.
He speaks of togetherness and our power to act.
You're getting annoyed at him for saying that?
You have poor form here, not him. You're using this to try and take a shot against Obama? Really, really?
Your tendency to kneejerk-attack him on everything is sad. And kinda fitting to be brought up here- Obama can outperform his white predecessor on economics, foreign policy, and other issues, but for some reason, possible tied to his skin-color, and by 'possibly' I mean 'look at birthers and put the white back in the whitehouse slogans, it's definite', there's a large number of people who hold a definite double-standard on him. Getting on his case for saying we have the power to do something about gun-violence. Shame on you.
The kid was a maniac. If the guy had killed a bunch of white people, its going to be labeled a massacre just the same. The fact that its color add's gas to the issues.I find it funny that these keep happening in quicker numbers in session then ever before in Obama's last terms.
It's almost as if there's been someone driving racial rhetoric. Which there has been, from before Obama took office. It's not so much funny, as it's happening for obvious reasons.
A lot of this stuff, the incidents that inspired 'black lives matters' and such, actually has happened for a long time- this very church was burned down before. Massacres of this level are uncommon, but the big thing recently is people are finally stepped up and giving the disproportionate media response national attention. The double-standard to reactions on violence against blacks is finally getting attention.
Ever notice how white shooters get labeled 'maniacs' and 'troubled loners' that nothing can be done about, while if a black person does it it gets attributed to being 'another black thug' or gansta or yadda yadda? There's been no reports of any history of mental illness or such, and *most* mass shootings and similar by white people do not have a history of mental illness. He's not a maniac who was going to go off no matter what, he was a white supremicist, who bought into rhetoric that encourages people to be violent, and the racists in this country do get catered to or ignored way too often.
There's very much a double standard of reporting, where white shooters are written off as exceptions, no-reason-to-look-into-things, and that's a problem.
He's not a maniac. He was a racist who employed violence to massacre people in support of white supremicist ideology.
Originally posted by Robtard
Is this a fact that can be verified?But I'd assume it's because mass murders like this keep happening and they possibly wouldn't if America had better gun control laws as being Obama's reason to speak up.
The Onion really hits this one well:
"No Way to Prevent This" says only nation where this regularly happens
Originally posted by Q99
What's wrong with you?He was directly addressing the causes of the incident. He is saying absolutely true about it- we could do things to prevent incidents like this. And his 'political' points were entirely on that point.
He speaks of togetherness and our power to act.
You're getting annoyed at him for saying that?
You have poor form here, not him. You're using this to try and take a shot against Obama? Really, really?
Your tendency to kneejerk-attack him on everything is sad. And kinda fitting to be brought up here- Obama can outperform his white predecessor on economics, foreign policy, and other issues, but for some reason, possible tied to his skin-color, and by 'possibly' I mean 'look at birthers and put the white back in the whitehouse slogans, it's definite', there's a large number of people who hold a definite double-standard on him. Getting on his case for saying we have the power to do something about gun-violence. Shame on you.
It's almost as if there's been someone driving racial rhetoric. Which there has been, from before Obama took office. It's not so much funny, as it's happening for obvious reasons.
A lot of this stuff, the incidents that inspired 'black lives matters' and such, actually has happened for a long time- this very church was burned down before. Massacres of this level are uncommon, but the big thing recently is people are finally stepped up and giving the disproportionate media response national attention. The double-standard to reactions on violence against blacks is finally getting attention.
Ever notice how white shooters get labeled 'maniacs' and 'troubled loners' that nothing can be done about, while if a black person does it it gets attributed to being 'another black thug' or gansta or yadda yadda? There's been no reports of any history of mental illness or such, and *most* mass shootings and similar by white people do not have a history of mental illness. He's not a maniac who was going to go off no matter what, he was a white supremicist, who bought into rhetoric that encourages people to be violent, and the racists in this country do get catered to or ignored way too often.
There's very much a double standard of reporting, where white shooters are written off as exceptions, no-reason-to-look-into-things, and that's a problem.
He's not a maniac. He was a racist who employed violence to massacre people in support of white supremicist ideology.
The Onion really hits this one well:
"No Way to Prevent This" says only nation where this regularly happens
This post is made of so much win.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
It could have been a hate religious killing. Or better yet, domestic terrorism.
It is domestic terrorism. Against black people, by a white supremicist. What else would you call racially motivated massacre?
That's not an alternative to it being racially motivated, because it certainly is racially motivated. In the killer's own words. And people who knew him said for some time he'd been increasingly racist, and talked about doing something. An attack is not something you can just put your own motives on to to fit your personal narrative, we know what happened.
As bash said, this is probably a false flag attack.
There's zero evidence of it being a false flag attack other than you want it to.
Your ability to immediately leaping to believe any way to write off this incident as a result of something that could be tied to what it most visibly is, solely because you'd rather blame someone you already don't like with no evidence, is disturbing.
What is with your willingness to swallow any conspiracy theory that comes your way?
Your confirmation bias is absurd, and exactly why attacks like this happen- you are literally giving the actual causes a complete pass in favor of blaming people that had nothing to do with it, and just like every other time you leap to such a conspiracy theory, the lack of evidence doesn't seem to phase you.
Just because you don't like someone doesn't make it ok to make up crap about them- nor does it excuse making up crap to defend a shooting.
You're literally being delusional in a way that defends the cause of someone who shot and killed nine people. Think about that for awhile.
Bashar was being sarcastic when he said false-flag attack. As his first post in the thread was:
"this story does not support my narrow world view narrative, so i'll ignore it." -every kmc racist, probably
He called it, and he's right. That's you, dead on.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Your stupid, I never condoned the attack. I was merely playing along with bash's false accusations from the beginning.Its actually you who is on the attack against me for nothing.
Trust me, you and me..we won't be talking again either.
And then this guy PM's me that he's ignoring me, thus not really getting the purpose of the 'ignoring' thing.
I really do not think he gets what 'sarcasm' is, or 'playing along'. He buys into the most ridiculous stuff all the time (remember when he thought the US had used nukes in Yemen? That was great), and then he said straight-faced with no sign of a joke that he agrees with Bashar's comment.
I think he's just mad that he got caught out on agreeing with Bashar's sarcasm. Another poster predicted what he'd say and Bashar Teg was certainly dead. on. ^^
Since I can't edit my post or respond go anything you say from the ignore function.
You are really ignorant and very retarded if you think I was agreeing with his baiting sacasm earlier. Since Bash and I never agree on anything you think I couldn't see through his usual BS. On top of that his original post about ignoring the thread, hahaha. He was begging for attention so I gave him some. In the process I picked up a drama queen from the liberal party cheerleading.
Anyways have a good time posting whatever nonsense you want. You been anal wrecked and have massive butthurt😂
He *really* doesn't get ignore, does he?
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You are really ignorant and very retarded if you think I was agreeing with his baiting sacasm earlier. Since Bash and I never agree on anything you think I couldn't see through his usual BS. On top of that his original post about ignoring the thread, hahaha. He was begging for attention so I gave him some. In the process I picked up a drama queen from the liberal party cheerleading.
The 'oh, I *meant* to say something dumb' approach is rarely a good defense I find.
And it neatly doesn't explain his other comments, like trying to deflect the cause of the attack as something other than racism, exactly the type of thing he normally does.
Honestly I hope that at some point he grows up- the 'gullibly believing anything bad about people he doesn't like' thing is funny at first, but it's no way to live. Buying into conspiracy theories left and right, about this and other subjects, is either going to leave him isolated or in with a pretty bad crowd.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Fine I take you off ignore to embarrass you more. Which conspiracy did I buy into here, queen? Why are you talking in third person and too yourself "his, he." I don't think anyone was talking to you. You seem really worked up, is there anything I can do to sooth your butt pain?
The third person's because I'm describing you to others there what was wrong with your arguments. I was on ignore, remember?
Anyway, you not only said you bought in to the false-flag thing, with no wink or sign there's joke.
And you kept arguing that it wasn't a hate crime even though the guy himself said it was, and there's this gem:
"The guy was a mentally ill deranged maniac. He thinks he from South Africa. Clearly delusional."
Another made-up one, when then's no reports of that, just him wearing a flag that a lot of supremicists wears.
If these are meant to be jokes, you're utterly failing to convey it, because you keep in arguing in support of them and you've believed way more out-there things. Actual jokes need to, y'know, not sound like things you say all the time, how else is anyone supposed to know?
(P.S. the 'butt pain' thing seems to be projecting your own - you're the one annoyed enough to first ignore me then take me off ignore. )
Wow Q99 did you just show up to forum? I dont mean to take you back to school or anything.
Originally posted by Q99
Anyway, you not only said you bought in to the false-flag thing, with no wink or sign there's joke.
Wow, lets rewind. Where was bash's joke tags??? I mean I would never accuse you of being bias or a hypocrite.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg<-Clearly this was a serious post. Yet he didn't put joke tags. Didn't see you calling him out. Caught you red handed. Now stfu😂
i bet the killer was actually programmed by the liberals in order to push their anti-gun agenda.wow circlejerks are awesome. we can literally make anything true by believing it together.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
As bash said, this is probably a false flag attack.
Originally posted by Q99
The third person's because I'm describing you to others there what was wrong with your arguments. I was on ignore, remember?Anyway, you not only said you bought in to the false-flag thing, with no wink or sign there's joke.
And you kept arguing that it wasn't a hate crime even though the guy himself said it was, and there's this gem:
"The guy was a mentally ill deranged maniac. He thinks he from South Africa. Clearly delusional."Another made-up one, when then's no reports of that, just him wearing a flag that a lot of supremicists wears.
Now let me school you some more..
He was wearing flags.
And it's "supremicists" not "supremacists"
Consider yourself schooled.