Charleston Shooting-Nine Dead in Church

Considering the KKK used to freely beat black people or hang them from trees without fear of legal punishment and now they don't, it seems anti-racism has had some positive effects.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
The KKK exists but doesn't really do anything any more- aside from anyhting else, organisations like that committing crimes just make too easy a target for the authorities these days. The crimes don;t come from overt organisations, or even organisations at all. They come as a result of a maladjusted cultural mindset that some groups of people perpetuate.

That's what Im saying they exist and you can't stop their ideology, and though they don't act on it directly others, like this kid are influenced by this type of thinking.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering the KKK used to freely beat black people or hang them from trees without fear of legal punishment and now they don't, it seems anti-racism has had some positive effects.

The physical effects yes, but discrimination is largely a mental state.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
That's what Im saying they exist and you can't stop their ideology, and though they don't act on it directly others, like this kid are influenced by this type of thinking.

Ah, well, then we disagree over whether the ideology can be stopped. I think it can.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He immediately went political with it, before some families even been notified there loved ones passed away.

Poor form.

Rudy Giuliani told Fox News, “Maybe he hates Christian churches."

On the same program, Steve Doocy highlighted “the hostility toward Christians,” adding, that the mass shooting “was in a church, so maybe that’s what it was about.”

Rick Santorum connected the murders to a broader “assault on our religious liberty.”

On The View, Sen. Lindsey Graham also connected the shootings to religion, “It’s 2015, there are people out there looking for Christians to kill them.”

This is almost certainly not what happened.

Dylann Storm Roof told friend Joey Meek a few weeks before the shooting that “blacks were taking over the world” and that “someone needed to do something about it for the white race.”

All available evidence points to a man driven by racism.

The President suggests that if firearms were better regulated, perhaps this tragedy could have been avoided.

Republicans are eagerly trying to turn this tragedy into an "assault on religious liberty" and on Christians for political gain.

So who is doing the politicizing?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The physical effects yes, but discrimination is largely a mental state.

That can also be stopped or ideally changed in people's minds. Sure, you're not going to change everyone's mind, but change enough and it tends to slowly pass down from generation to generation.

Compare the open and prevalent racism of say the 50-60's to now. People's whose great-grandfathers marched against integration, openly accept people of different colors/races etc. now.

Ush, I really don't believe in happy ending in the real world. As things are going, things are only getting worse, here and the Middle East due to ideology. If you think it can be stopped and have an idea on how, I'm all ears to listen.

Rob, sure things are different with that. However something's are much worse. Murder rates are through the roof.

Adam, I'm not part of the republican agenda so your rant is pointless as it is mealiness to me. I'm so beyond Republicans vs Democrates, maybe it's time you should be as well. A house divided will fall.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial

Adam, I'm not part of the republican agenda so your rant is pointless as it is mealiness to me. I'm so beyond Republicans vs Democrates, maybe it's time you should be as well. A house divided will fall.

Not to jump on your shit, but you're very quick to point out when the Left/Liberals/Obama supposedly does some political scummy move, but when it's pointed out that it's actually the Right, you couldn't care less and dismiss it.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Adam, I'm not part of the republican agenda so your rant is pointless as it is mealiness to me. I'm so beyond Republicans vs Democrates, maybe it's time you should be as well. A house divided will fall.

If you do not have a conservative agenda, and your issue is the politicization of this tragedy, then where are your condemnations of Rudy Giuliani, Steve Doocy, Rick Santorum, and Sen. Lindsey Graham? Why is your outrage completely selective and limited to the Democratic President?

Who are those people to me? Has beens fallen from grace? I didn't know what they said because I don't watch or pay attention to them.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Fine I take you off ignore to embarrass you more. Which conspiracy did I buy into here, queen? Why are you talking in third person and too yourself "his, he." I don't think anyone was talking to you. You seem really worked up, is there anything I can do to sooth your butt pain?

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Originally posted by Robtard
Not to jump on your shit, but you're very quick to point out when the Left/Liberals/Obama supposedly does some political scummy move, but when it's pointed out that it's actually the Right, you couldn't care less and dismiss it.

So you think they are defending the murdered by not ruling out all possibilities of racially motivated murder? I mean, was all the facts out right away why he did what he did to everyone and was everyone supposed to think the same way. Maybe they were trying to move past race. But I don't like any of those people, and they are not the president and they have zero chance in doing anything towards fixing the problem. I didn't bother to read all this links because I'm not going to get into a democrat vs republican debate. I already have told you and everyone else on the forum I will be voting for Martin O'Malley if he gets the ticket. Trying to use me as you "Forum Republican" here, wont work. Just because I am not a radical liberal demo does not dictate my vote.

Sorry.

Law enforcement, and military personal are the puppets for the Government. The Government are puppets for the CEOs, weapon, ammo manufacturers etc... This stuff is to fuel wars, and to make the rich, richer, and the civilians suffer big time. Was this guy sick? I don't know, where's the proof? Besides the big media outlets, cops and anyone high up telling us, because I don't trust most of them.

I have cops in the family, some are good, and some are bad. I also have family members that work in the Government, high end city level. I see and hear dirty stories. Imo, this case is another dirty story or false flag.

Originally posted by The Nuul
false flag.

are you 'just joking' as well?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So you think they are defending the murdered by not ruling out all possibilities of racially motivated murder? I mean, was all the facts out right away why he did what he did to everyone and was everyone supposed to think the same way. Maybe they were trying to move past race. But I don't like any of those people, and they are not the president and they have zero chance in doing anything towards fixing the problem. I didn't bother to read all this links because I'm not going to get into a democrat vs republican debate. I already have told you and everyone else on the forum I will be voting for Martin O'Malley if he gets the ticket. Trying to use me as you "Forum Republican" here, wont work. Just because I am not a radical liberal demo does not dictate my vote.

Sorry.

Some of them, especially Rick Santorum, it's fairly obvious that he used this tragedy to push his own "America is Anti-Christian" agenda.

Personally I think Lindsey "Gram" is a idiot.

And I am pretty sure Santorum left his job to go have sex with a columbian mistress.

Anyone that actually things it's a "false flag", who exactly are we being lead to believe was carrying out this massacre? Because from the majority of news stories, it's the actions of a single mentally unstable racist.

Unless my understanding of "false flag operation" is wrong and it isn't one entity doing some action and making it appear it's the actions of another entity.

It all stims from this Rob, thats were this concept came from, and that why people believe it still exists.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=operations%20northwoods

It was probably a sex doll powered by two rc cars (one for movement, one to pull the trigger) driven by black men to try and control white people's ability to have guns so the black men could overrun the country.

Hahahaha