Originally posted by quanchi112
So he never said he attempted to kill him at that point this confirming my point. I'm right. You're some bandwagon fanboy.
Actually it confirms my point as it shows he was willing to kill. This followed by the many times he attempted to kill Luke in that battle. So I'm right your wrong.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2He was willing to if Luke forced him to but since he never did Vader never tried to kill him. Yw, imbecile.
Actually it confirms my point as it shows he was willing to kill. This followed by the many times he attempted to kill Luke in that battle. So I'm right your wrong.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was willing to if Luke forced him to but since he never did Vader never tried to kill him. Yw, imbecile.
Thank you for conceding that. He tried to kill him several times. Watch the video. Again you dont call hacking away at some one, trying to decapitate someone, take off their legs, trying to trample them, hacking away trying to overpower them, disarming and then going for a killing blow, you don't call that trying to kill. You can try things and fail.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2I didn't concede that. I said he never tried to. He didn't. Actions and words support me.
Thank you for conceding that. He tried to kill him several times. Watch the video. Again you dont call hacking away at some one, trying to decapitate someone, take off their legs, trying to trample them, hacking away trying to overpower them, disarming and then going for a killing blow, you don't call that trying to kill. You can try things and fail.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He hasn't tried which is the point. I won via your own words. Game. Set. Match.
He has tried. I'm glad you finally understand what the topic is. I won via Vaders own actions. Check mate. There's no way to get around what vader did. He attempted to kill Luke based on then video.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he said he hadn't but he would. He did not.Luke wins.
If I say I don't want to kill you but I aim and shoot at your heart and head which is the superior claim. My actions or my words?
Opinion. He doesn't have nearly as much as experience than Luke and a greater power in the force.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2He is a master swordsman fighting a great swordsman so not a valid analogy.
If I say I don't want to kill you but I aim and shoot at your heart and head which is the superior claim. My actions or my words?Opinion. He doesn't have nearly as much as experience than Luke and a greater power in the force.
Luke won. Fact. Your opinion doesn't override the fact Luke win.
Facts rule, kiddo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He is a master swordsman fighting a great swordsman so not a valid analogy.Luke won. Fact. Your opinion doesn't override the fact Luke win.
Facts rule, kiddo.
By this time Luke is not a great swordsman. He is a gifted duelist but not a great swordsman not yet. However this analogy fits. Which do you go by my words or my actions?
Vader has more experience and greater power in the force. Fact. Your crappy debating doesn't change the fact that Vade is the better duelist and the more powerful force weilder. Has more experience and better training.
Yes they do so you should look at them more kiddo. Who has more experience, who has the greater power in the force, who has the better training, who has the better weapon. Facts rule kiddo.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2He was great just not at master level yet.
By this time Luke is not a great swordsman. He is a gifted duelist but not a great swordsman not yet. However this analogy fits. Which do you go by my words or my actions?Vader has more experience and greater power in the force. Fact. Your crappy debating doesn't change the fact that Vade is the better duelist and the more powerful force weilder. Has more experience and better training.
Yes they do so you should look at them more kiddo. Who has more experience, who has the greater power in the force, who has the better training, who has the better weapon. Facts rule kiddo.
His words match his actions.
Luke won. Fact.
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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2So the emperor wanted someone who wasn't great yet ? The guy crushed Vader you nitwit.
He was talented. By ROTJ he was talented but not great IMO.Answer these questions. Who has the most experience, better training, better weapon, and better honed force powers?
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Luke won a fight so who cares. Vader lost despite having more experience. He was also slower and lost the majority of his midichlorians due to getting severed by Kenobi.
Luke won. 💃
Originally posted by quanchi112
So the emperor wanted someone who wasn't great yet ? The guy crushed Vader you nitwit.Luke won a fight so who cares. Vader lost despite having more experience. He was also slower and lost the majority of his midichlorians due to getting severed by Kenobi.
Luke won. 💃
He wanted someone he could craft and turn into his monster. He wanted someone with a lot of raw power(the greatest after Anakin) someone he could train from the ground up. Or at least someone with very little training. After doing what palpatine wanted him to do. Get angry. With Palaptines training he would have crushed vader without the need to get angry.
Answer the questions. A lot of that experience didn't come into play. Slower and having less midiclorians didn't seem to ha,per him in the slightest based off the movie. He beat Luke their first fight, and wasn't trying in their second fight. If this is an all out battle, where there is no Sidious or need to turn anyone, no strings attached. Vader wins. His force powers are much more developed and his dueling skills are more refine and better.
Vader wins this match. 💃
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Anakin was all wasted potential after Obi wrecked his body. Luke was more powerful and more formidable and proved it. He was trying in both fights and lost bad,y in the second after Luke improved.
He wanted someone he could craft and turn into his monster. He wanted someone with a lot of raw power(the greatest after Anakin) someone he could train from the ground up. Or at least someone with very little training. After doing what palpatine wanted him to do. Get angry. With Palaptines training he would have crushed vader without the need to get angry.Answer the questions. A lot of that experience didn't come into play. Slower and having less midiclorians didn't seem to ha,per him in the slightest based off the movie. He beat Luke their first fight, and wasn't trying in their second fight. If this is an all out battle, where there is no Sidious or need to turn anyone, no strings attached. Vader wins. His force powers are much more developed and his dueling skills are more refine and better.
Vader wins this match. 💃
Luke won. Fact. You saying Vader wins is speculation. Facts>>you.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Anakin was all wasted potential after Obi wrecked his body. Luke was more powerful and more formidable and proved it. He was trying in both fights and lost bad,y in the second after Luke improved.Luke won. Fact. You saying Vader wins is speculation. Facts>>you.
Aankin being wasted potential is irrelevant. Than Vader? Oh no. Take both by ROTJ Vader wins due to greater command of the force and better skill with the blade. Vader, beat Luke in their first fight pretty easily. Disarming twice. Vader was holding back in their last fight. Both were. Until Luke went all super Saiyan. Vader was just defending and wasn't just trying. In this battle that is unlikely to happen. So? Vader won a fight between them too.