Originally posted by NephthysUnless Zannah's illusion proves ineffective...
Lol yes. Same scenario as the Plagueis thread. Sheev gets mentally attacked by Zannah and bumrushed by a pissed off Bane and can't defend himself against both at once. Bane and Zannah can beat almost any single combatant together.
Considering Bane's immense willpower, pretty much anyone would be. And as I've said in the past, they don't need to be as effected as him, just effected enough that they're in no shape to defend themselves properly.
Maybe Sidious won't be effected as strongly, but Zannah's attack won't be ineffective.
Sidious' willpower immensely surpasses Bane's, Sidious via willpower can drag his spirit through the galaxy and can pull himself out of the void, a feat accomplished by no other Dark Sider. It took the combined spirits of every Jedi that ever lived to stop him from doing so again, the most powerful wall of light ever.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Sidious' willpower immensely surpasses Bane's, Sidious via willpower can drag his spirit through the galaxy and can pull himself out of the void, a feat accomplished by no other Dark Sider. It took the combined spirits of every Jedi that ever lived to stop him from doing so again, the most powerful wall of light ever.
I'm pretty sure that isn't his willpower, it's his mastery of spirit transference. And it didn't "take" every Jedi, every Jedi just insured that he couldn't return. Brand alone dragged his spirit into the depths of the Force.
And even so, so what? It's still an attack that will effect Sidious, distracting and slowing him enough that Bane can kill him in sabers. He's not brushing it off.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm pretty sure that isn't his willpower, it's his mastery of spirit transference. And it didn't "take" every Jedi, every Jedi just insured that he couldn't return. Brand alone dragged his spirit into the depths of the Force.
Nah, Gamer #5:
Palpatine's body was destroyed. Separated from his clones, Palpatine was forced to survive in the maddening, bodiless existence of the void. Through sheer will he retained his identity, crossing the gulf of space to again take up residence in his clone body.
Retaining your identity after death is something countless Sith were capable of. Wookieepedia also says that he was helped in traversing the void by various sith spirits.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Zannah's mental attacks aren't working period, Plagueis himself got nothing from a pre-TPM Sidious.Bane also isn't nearly close enough to contend with Sidious' speed feats.
Zannah uses sorcery, not telepathy.
When Sidious is debilitated by Zannah, he certainly is.
Wookieepedia has countless unsourced and incorrect statements.
His sheer will allowed him to return from the void, and that's all there is. Unless you have a source for his spiritual aid.
Also, Sidious prevented Plagueis from scanning his mind before the former even received training in the Force. Zannah's mental attacks don't compare to his mental willpower - she'll end up like the Iktotchi who failed to mind read Maul.
Empire's End:
Sith spirit: Emperor of numerous worlds... Lord Vader's throne still remains empty. Have you now come to take his place and join us?
Palpatine: No! Not that... ...Your spirits guided me back to this life when I was destroyed by Vader... and his children... My aging clone body will soon die. I need healing... Now.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
But most of them had nexuses of Force energy to sustain themselves, Sidious was left drifting in space, and still managed to rend the fabric of space, which is unprecedented.
And Sidious had spirits to give him sustenance. Rending space isn't a feat of willpower.