Originally posted by Nephthys
Retaining your identity after death is something countless Sith were capable of. Wookieepedia also says that he was helped in traversing the void by various sith spirits.
I give you an actual source and its statement and you give me Wookieepedia. lol
The ancient Sith did render aid, but it was Sheev's will that kept his spectral shit together enough to cross space.
Anyway, where is your proof that Zannah's attacks will critically affect Sidious?
Originally posted by AncientPower
I never stated otherwise.No he certainly isn't.
Plagueis also lacks mental feats himself I believe.
The pain of Zannah's attack alone is massive and as Bane demonstrated the attack is incredibly debilitating. If Bane can't even stay standing, Sidious can't fight off a warrior like Bane with his orbalisk advantage.
Originally posted by Nephthys
The pain of Zannah's attack alone is massive and as Bane demonstrated the attack is incredibly debilitating.
Bane's weakness isn't necessarily Sheev's weakness. You need to actually prove that.
Originally posted by Nephthys
If Bane can't even stay standing, Sidious can't fight off a warrior like Bane with his orbalisk advantage.
Bane is the weakest of his order and Sidious is the strongest. Proof that an orbalisk advantage will significantly mitigate that disparity?
Originally posted by SunRazer
By the way, Zannah actually needs to charge up Sorcery for a period of time to actually do anything to Sidious (or hope to). Otherwise she'll be mindcrushed, but it doesn't matter either way considering Sidious will just blitz her.
No, she doesn't. That's simply a lie that carthage insists of stating over and over. She needs no more charge up than any other Force attack.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I give you an actual source and its statement and you give me Wookieepedia. lolThe ancient Sith did render aid, but it was Sheev's will that kept his spectral shit together enough to cross space.
Anyway, where is your proof that Zannah's attacks will critically affect Sidious?
I gave you the source and statement too. Try reading a little more.
His will allowed him to retain his identity. Other sith spirits have crossed space. And I don't see why it would be any special feat of willpower leagues beyond Bane to do so.
Her attack on Bane is the proof, on top of Bane's numerous documented feats of immense willpower.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Lol Plagueis does not lack mental feats.To Darth Bane it has such an effect, to the most powerful Sith Lord ever whom is magnitudes more powerful it will not.
Then post them.
Zannah's attack isn't a question of power, numbnuts.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Ah so basically you've admitted that your entire argument is a no limits fallacy then? My job is finished.
Uh, no. Her technique is based on mental willpower and stability. This is stated in the book. I assumed you actually knew that before you claimed Sidious could defend against it.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I gave you the source and statement too. Try reading a little more.
I read your post and addressed it: the ancient Sith did render aid {through knowledge} but it was Sheev's sheer force of will that enabled him to retain his identity enough to cross the gulf of space to Byss.
Originally posted by Nephthys
His will allowed him to retain his identity. Other sith spirits have crossed space. And I don't see why it would be any special feat of willpower leagues beyond Bane to do so.
Have other spirits crossed space through sheer will? What has been attributed to Bane comparable to that?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Her attack on Bane is the proof, on top of Bane's numerous documented feats of immense willpower.
Her attack on Bane isn't proof. Bane isn't Sheev. Bane's "numerous documented feats of immense willpower" {heretofore unattested} don't necessarily make him comparable {let alone superior} to Sheev with respect to willpower.
Yes but your entire claim is that because it defeats Bane's massively inferior willpower then it beats anyone's, hence your Bane & Zannah > any one person idiocy.
Sidious' force power directly effects his ability to maintain his willpower, that is basic Force augmentation. Bane isn't even on the same page as Sidious in terms of power, infact he isn't even in the same damn library.