Originally posted by SurturIf you have a point you'd like to make, you should consider not hiding it behind yammering inanity.
So we just ignore Thor carries around a plot device magic hammer made by his daddy? That he at times wears various magical items that amp his stats, like his belt of strength? Okie dokie, but that sounds suspiciously like ignorance to me.
I would of thought it would be obvious...since you were comparing someone to Thor who lacks the whole plot device magical hammer thing.
You know...the hammer that allows Thor to hang with beings way out of his weight class? That hammer. If you gave Superman the magic hammer then okie doke, I'd say he could defeat the characters Thor has.
Of course Thor with the power gem merely was able to give Thanos a bloody nose, so I'm not sure I'd place Thanos on that list either way.
Originally posted by SurturYeah instead he has the plot device S shield
I would of thought it would be obvious...since you were comparing someone to Thor who lacks the whole plot device magical hammer thing.You know...the hammer that allows Thor to hang with beings WAY out of his weight class? That hammer.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah instead he has the plot device S shield
The point was Thor doesn't just rely on his own powers. So no, you wouldn't be able to say Superman could defeat anyone Thor can.
Of course if Thor has beaten Thanos in the past he has also managed to do all of give him a bloody nose despite having the power gem.
Originally posted by SurturSuperman could defeat everyone Thor has at the same time before you can fart the national athem
The point was Thor doesn't just rely on his own powers. So no, you wouldn't be able to say Superman could defeat anyone Thor can.Of course if Thor has beaten Thanos in the past he has also managed to do all of give him a bloody nose despite having the power gem.
Originally posted by h1a8
If Superman used his speed and reflexes then the fight wouldn't be too difficult for him. He could out speed and out maneuver Thanos in a lot of situations. He has the power to ko Thanos, etc.
Thanos survived a singularity strong enough to pull in everything around it in a radius of 2 lightyears. It's really not going to be as easy to put him down as you think.
Originally posted by h1a8
characters aren't always written with their top speed or reflexes. The story dictates what powers a character will use at a given time. A slow being hitting Superman or Surfer in a comic doesn't prove that they are faster than light. You should know this. Thanos hitting beings in comics that possess faster than light speed is only relevant if that being was actually moving light speed or faster when Thanos hit them.Thanos isn't a true speedster. He's faster than a human but has only low level speed (less than Spider-Man and quicksilver). Superman is a high end speedster with reflexes to match. Superman sees bullets in still motion. If Thanos moves bullet speed or a little faster then Superman would still see him in slow motion.
Do you believe that Thanos can move almost as fast as Superman? I ask this because you say it's absurd that Superman would see him in slow motion.
So on other words,the only reason you say supes sees him in slow motion, is because you believe so?. Is Silver surfer,dosent see thanos as slow,and can't even react to his blows,if thanos has tagged super fast beings and abstracts and reacted to them as well,forgive me for this language...BUT WHAT THE **** MAKES YOU THINK SUPES WILL BLITZ HIM?. It dosent matter if thanos can't run as fast or fly as fast,its his combat speed and reflexes that matter,and those shit on superman. And superman isn't stronger than thanos.
Originally posted by Genii96
It dosent matter if thanos can't run as fast or fly as fast,its his combat speed and reflexes that matter,and those shit on superman. And superman isn't stronger than thanos.
This is absolute heresy!
Superman IS stronger than Thanos.
Superman IS faster than Thanos in combat.
Superman IS Stronger than Thanos.
I challenge you or any other Thanosi to go feat for feat and prove otherwise.
Originally posted by Genii96
So on other words,the only reason you say supes sees him in slow motion, is because you believe so?. Is Silver surfer,dosent see thanos as slow,and can't even react to his blows,if thanos has tagged super fast beings and abstracts and reacted to them as well,forgive me for this language...BUT WHAT THE **** MAKES YOU THINK SUPES WILL BLITZ HIM?. It dosent matter if thanos can't run as fast or fly as fast,its his combat speed and reflexes that matter,and those shit on superman. And superman isn't stronger than thanos.
So you basically ignored my post. I'll repeat. Characters in comics don't always use their speed or reflexes. So tagging them doesn't prove your speed.
And you are trolling me. Please stop. I told you I'm not talking about Superman blitzing Thanos at all but him seeing Thanos in slow motion. These are two different things.
Superman is stronger because he has the greater strength feats. This includes striking and lifting.
And lastly, do you think Thanos can move his limbs close to Superman level speeds?
Originally posted by Surturartificial singularity. Thanos never touched the singularity but was caught in the event horizon. I can also argue the same for Superman. He was in a double black hole without any injuries. He held a black hole without any damage.
Thanos survived a singularity strong enough to pull in everything around it in a radius of 2 lightyears. It's really not going to be as easy to put him down as you think.
Thanos was damaged by the artificial black hole.
Originally posted by iceman24567Lifting power plus speed equals striking power. A punch is really a push. Superman has the strength behind the punch as well as the speed to create devastating kinetic energy.
Striking power is more important than strength in a fight 😬. Thanos beats at the very least 2 Supermen if not gimped
See, threads like this kill me. The people that keep saying Superman is stronger and posting scans of Superman holding, lifting, or pressing certain weights are laughable. No, people cant post scans of Thanos doing comparable things, because Marvel hasent written Thanos in such situations. All the Thanos supporters have to go off of is how often he beats Superman level characters and that's practically every appearance.
Not sure why its so hard to understand for some people.
Originally posted by tkitna
See, threads like this kill me. The people that keep saying Superman is stronger and posting scans of Superman holding, lifting, or pressing certain weights are laughable. No, people cant post scans of Thanos doing comparable things, because Marvel hasent written Thanos in such situations. All the Thanos supporters have to go off of is how often he beats Superman level characters and that's practically every appearance.Not sure why its so hard to understand for some people.
The fault doesn't lie with Superman fans citing canon involving the character's strength. The blame should be placed on Thanos supporters making the assertion that the Mad Titan is stronger than Superman.
Thanos doesn't rely on brute strength to overwhelm opponents. Given this fact why would it be reasonable to presume that he is stronger than Superman without the feats to back it up?
If you believe my argument to be false, show me Thanos using strength solely to defeat Superman level characters.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
The fault doesn't lie with Superman fans citing canon involving the character's strength. The blame should be placed on Thanos supporters making the assertion that the Mad Titan is stronger than Superman.Thanos doesn't rely on brute strength to overwhelm opponents. Given this fact why would it be reasonable to presume that he is stronger than Superman without the feats to back it up?
If you believe my argument to be false, show me Thanos using strength solely to defeat Superman level characters.
Wow you actually a good debater when you arn't trolling for attention.👆