Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos never physically beat a Superman level character in physicality. Superman is physically superior to any character Thanos has beat physically. .
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Kallark is no Superman and the canon proves it.
Here lies the problem with debates like these. Some people perceive Superman as being so superior to similar characters in Marvel that responding to them is pointless. Sure I would give Clark a win over Gladiator, but it certainly isn't a shitstomp. Clarks coming out of that bloodied and bruised, but victorious nonetheless. Thanos fighting Gladiator is a shitstomp. There's the difference.
I don't know, when people pick Thanos to win (which he would) and they use examples of him beating the likes of Thor, Surfer, Hulk, Gladiator, etc,,,it doesn't register to the Superman camp because they feel he is a tier above the characters I just listed and he's not. Its fruitless, so why bother?
Originally posted by tkitna
Here lies the problem with debates like these. Some people perceive Superman as being so superior to similar characters in Marvel that responding to them is pointless. Sure I would give Clark a win over Gladiator, but it certainly isn't a shitstomp. Clarks coming out of that bloodied and bruised, but victorious nonetheless. Thanos fighting Gladiator is a shitstomp. There's the difference.I don't know, when people pick Thanos to win (which he would) and they use examples of him beating the likes of Thor, Surfer, Hulk, Gladiator, etc,,,it doesn't register to the Superman camp because they feel he is a tier above the characters I just listed and he's not. Its fruitless, so why bother?
Let me ask another question then. If those guys are so confident that Superman is >>>> Marvel peers, why do they constantly engage in debate witht those that feels differently?
Originally posted by abhilegend
No. The universe was miniaturized long before the creation was pulled into that black hole.
Sigh...it drives me insane reading posts like this. Especially WHEN YOU HAVE People like H1 lurking to use something that's not legit. Anyways.
Originally posted by carver9
👆I also think Galan debunked that showing. I will PM him and ask him if he remembers what he said during that scene.
Shut up.
Originally posted by carver9
Sigh...it drives me insane reading posts like this. Especially WHEN YOU HAVE People like H1 lurking to use something that's not legit. Anyways.
Prove it's not legit or shut up. Simple as that.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Let me ask another question then. If those guys are so confident that Superman is >>>> Marvel peers, why do they constantly engage in debate witht those that feels differently?
I don't know. Maybe to try and convince people otherwise which never works. I guess I'm guilty in the same way as I can never see Superman ever beating Thanos whether it being purely a physical fight or using the extent of their other powers. Oh well.
Originally posted by tkitnaThat's cause you believe that Superman and is marvel peers are physical equals when they are not. The only reason they are peers to Superman is because of their versatility. Superman has speed and strengh on his side. Thanos and Superman peers has everything else.
I don't know. Maybe to try and convince people otherwise which never works. I guess I'm guilty in the same way as I can never see Superman ever beating Thanos whether it being purely a physical fight or using the extent of their other powers. Oh well.
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman has both super speed and super fast reflexes. These are two different powers. It was shown on panel multiple times that Superman can view things frozen in time or in super slow motion. His super reflexes gives him that ability. Comics sometimes ignore that ability by Superman. Good thing this is a forum fight where characters fight to the best of their abilities.
Comics ignore this "ability" about 99% if the time. If not, stories would fit on one panel. Please stop this nonsense and debate with some integrity.
Originally posted by h1a8
That's cause you believe that Superman and is marvel peers are physical equals when they are not. The only reason they are peers to Superman is because of their versatility. Superman has speed and strengh on his side. Thanos and Superman peers has everything else.
So why did Superman say "weak" Thor was his toughest opponent and why did Thor say he had his measure? Why did he he take three days to beat Hulk? Why could he not believe the power of Mjolnir? Why did Surfer destroy Kyle and Orion?
I bring this up only to show that the damn WRITERS in both universes see the top tiers as peers. You are simply wrong in your stance that Superman is so above Marvel top tiers and countless posters have been trying to tell you that.
Originally posted by Blue Area VetAvengers vs. Jl is not allowed. But I do understand your point. I'll point out your flaws though.
So why did Superman say "weak" Thor was his toughest opponent and why did Thor say he had his measure? Why did he he take three days to beat Hulk? Why could he not believe the power of Mjolnir? Why did Surfer destroy Kyle and Orion?I bring this up only to show that the damn WRITERS in both universes see the top tiers as peers. You are simply wrong in your stance that Superman is so above Marvel top tiers and countless posters have been trying to tell you that.
1. writer's opinions on a character are meaningless SINCE there is more than one writer of a character AND writers have differences of opinion. Also feats trump a writer's opinions.
2. Superman one shot Thor. That's how much that particular writer thinks Superman is physically superior to Thor.
3. Characters have high and low showings and sometimes don't fight to the best of their abilities in a comic. So Just because two characters in a comic fight nearly even doesn't mean they will in a forum. It's possible that one character was being downplayed in order to create a decent fight. For example, Superman has shown multi planetary strength several times over.
Originally posted by h1a8
I'll point out your flaws though.
writer's opinions on a character are meaningless SINCE there is more than one writer of a character AND writers have differences of opinion. Also feats trump a writer's opinions
Where do you think feats come from? Writers.
So Just because two characters in a comic fight nearly even doesn't mean they will in a forum. It's possible that one character was being downplayed in order to create a decent fight.
So you want to ignore the feats that you keep harping on. Cool. If you don't ignore them, you only use the high end feats for your argument and screw how a character is portrayed on an average.
