The Batman (2022)

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Originally posted by Zack M
[QUOTE=16274291]Originally posted by Darth Thor
[B]They'll definitely use Jeffrey Dean Morgan as the Thomas Wayne Batman. Then once reality is put back to normal, I'm guessing Batman will somehow be younger, and not Ben Affleck.
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That didnt happen in the books, though. [/B]

Which books are you talking about?

The end of flashpoint.

Originally posted by Zack M
The end of flashpoint.

Flashpoint was the trigger for the New 52. Everyone was several years younger when the new universe launched, weren't they?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Flashpoint was the trigger for the New 52. Everyone was several years younger when the new universe launched, weren't they?

Kinda, but per Rebirth, everything is the same. The only thing that changed is Doctor Manhattan took time off of everyone. Seeing as Geoff Johns is working on the script, I don't see him going that route. Besides, how are they going to explain another actor looking different to Ben Affleck? Ben is younger, but looks like Armie Hammer. Lol doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by Zack M
Kinda, but per Rebirth, everything is the same. The only thing that changed is Doctor Manhattan took time off of everyone. Seeing as Geoff Johns is working on the script, I don't see him going that route. Besides, how are they going to explain another actor looking different to Ben Affleck? Ben is younger, but looks like Armie Hammer. Lol doesn't make sense.

BvS and SS didn't make much sense either, but here we are.

Flashpoint and Rebirth are separate, first of all.

I'm not saying it's a great idea, but if Ben doesn't play Batman past a certain point, what do you really expect them to do? Use Dick Grayson or Terry until they eventually reboot Batman in another decade or two?

I mean making sense in chabging the actor in the middle of a trilogy or whatever. It would feel really awkward and odd. I dont think that will be the case. And I don't think flashpoint will make Batman younger. That was retconned out in the books, anyway.

I think Batman will pass the torch

Originally posted by Zack M
I mean making sense in chabging the actor in the middle of a trilogy or whatever. It would feel really awkward and odd. I dont think that will be the case. And I don't think flashpoint will make Batman younger. That was retconned out in the books, anyway.

I think Batman will pass the torch

Well to be fair, he'd have to start the trilogy to finish it. If Affleck starts the trilogy, i'd expect him to see it through.

Retconning it doesn't necessarily mean they'd follow it. It's not like they'd follow Flashpoint to the letter either.

Yeah, passing the torch is an option. A dumb one, but still.

Changing the actor, making him younger would be over the top stupid, too. The general audience would hate that, because it doesn't make sense. Might as well use CGI to make Ben look younger.

Originally posted by Zack M
Changing the actor, making him younger would be over the top stupid, too. The general audience would hate that, because it doesn't make sense. Might as well use CGI to make Ben look younger.

People accepted Kilmer as Batman three years after Keaton left. And sure, you can always make the "but it's the same universe" argument, but I doubt WB cares as much about that.

Sure it'd be stupid, but if Affleck jumps ship, they have to do something, and they're not exactly renowned for making good decisions with the DCEU.

Originally posted by -Pr-
People accepted Kilmer as Batman three years after Keaton left. And sure, you can always make the "but it's the same universe" argument, but I doubt WB cares as much about that.

Sure it'd be stupid, but if Affleck jumps ship, they have to do something.

Kilmer sucked and the movie bombed. Wb does not want to confuse the audience anymore than they should.

If Ben jumps ship, then they'll go the Batman Beyond route and pass the torch. I don't see any other way other then rebooting. But that would be even more confusing.

Remember, they are doing a bat universe with a Nivhtwing and batgirl movie. They aren't rebooting anytime soon.

Originally posted by Zack M
Kilmer sucked

How ****ing dare you.

nd the movie bombed. Wb does not want to confuse the audience anymore than they should.

If Ben jumps ship, then they'll go the Batman Beyond route and pass the torch. I don't see any other way other then rebooting. But that would be even more confusing.

Remember, they are doing a bat universe with a Nivhtwing and batgirl movie. They aren't rebooting anytime soon.

The movie did fine, iirc.

I think you overestimate their intelligence.

You say that now, but how do we really know they aren't rebooting anything when they call a movie Flashpoint? I don't expect them to, but your certainty is kind of... Strange.

I think flashpoint is a way to introduce flash mythos more, which is why Geoff is taking over.

Domestically Batman forever didnt do so hot.

Time will tell.

Batman Forever did not flop:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=batmanforever.htm

It's domestic numbers back then would make current superhero films like X-Men:Apocalypse jealous. But on a massively smaller budget.

If they're going to simply recast, that can work, but then they're stuck with an Older Batman. Flashpoint is their key to reboot Batman however they see fit. I'm sure the whole reason they're doing Flashpoint is to make some changes that wouldn't otherwise make much sense.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I doubt Affleck will stay on for a trilogy.

For the record though I wanted that rumour to be true because of Batman Beyond.

he gone after the first batman film lol...

they could use thomas wayne but they could use hire an actor in his late 20s to mid 30s

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Batman Forever did not flop:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=batmanforever.htm

It's domestic numbers back then would make current superhero films like X-Men:Apocalypse jealous. But on a massively smaller budget.

If they're going to simply recast, that can work, but then they're stuck with an Older Batman. Flashpoint is their key to reboot Batman however they see fit. I'm sure the whole reason they're doing Flashpoint is to make some changes that wouldn't otherwise make much sense.

Budget was 100 million. Lol

Originally posted by -Pr-
How ****ing dare you.

lolwat Kilmer Batman was nothing to write home about.

Kevin Conroy declares Ben Affleck the best Batman (and Bruce Wayne)

Val who?

CBR caught up with Kevin Conroy at Comic-Con last weekend, who was there to promote his upcoming movie Batman and Harley Quinn. Conroy was asked if he keeps up with the other “Batmen”, to which he said he did. The popular Batman voice actor thinks the live-action actors all did a good job, but says Ben Affleck nailed both Batman and Bruce Wayne the best.

“Yeah, I see them,” Conroy said of the Batman movies. “You know, I thought it was weird when Warner Bros. didn’t give the franchise to one actor when they first started doing the films. You just assumed they were going to cast a Batman and he was going to carry the whole franchise. But then when I saw the different ones — Michael Keaton and Val Kilmer, [George Clooney], and Christian Bale — all the different takes, this was really smart, because each actor does it so differently. And I love seeing all the different takes. I think some of them get Bruce Wayne more than they get Batman, and some of them get Batman more than they get Bruce Wayne. I think Ben Affleck has probably gotten the best balance of the two. He’s a really good Bruce Wayne and a really good Batman.”

Originally posted by Zack M
Budget was 100 million. Lol

Not sure what the LOL is about.

The film more than tripled its budget, almost doubling it just domestically. Any superhero movie would be happy with that. Hence why they kept the same Director for the sequel. Note the sequel actually did bomb Lol

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Not sure what the LOL is about.

The film more than tripled its budget, almost doubling it just domestically. Any superhero movie would be happy with that. Hence why they kept the same Director for the sequel. Note the sequel actually did bomb Lol

Remember a movie doesnt get as much overseas. Thsts why domestic counts for more. It didn't break even domestically.

Originally posted by Zack M
Remember a movie doesnt get as much overseas. Thsts why domestic counts for more. It didn't break even domestically.

It was a big hit Lol

Hence the crappy sequel.

The sequel bombed. Hence the 8 year break prior to rebooting.