Low Herald Tournament Odds

Started by leonidas97 pages

again, i'd say that's illegal. of course cap is above caps anyway. i'd throw all those things under loopholes and ban that type of tactic. but this is id's show. guess we'll no when all rules are finalized.

i have my (tentative) picks already set, pending clarification on some of the rules.

Have not really made decision on character pick yet, just brainstorming right now..

Currently at work but I am reading the topic.

Oh, another 'cheaty' loophole.

Any member of the Authority. Do they get the use of their Doors?

Originally posted by "Id"
Currently at work but I am reading the topic.

work? pfft. when you're a tourney host this IS your job. sneer

Lol

Just so you guys know. Cassandra Nova is not Low Herald. Her ranking needs to be updated.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh, another 'cheaty' loophole.

Any member of the Authority. Do they get the use of their Doors?

I would assume not. There is ample precedent from past tourneys if needed. It belongs to the team, not a single character's standard equipment.

There should probably be a amalgam power limit, but high herald seems low given that a lot if low heralds can give many HHs a good fight.

Id really agree with the TP limit, but see no charactera that require banning beyond doomsday. Graviton is only OP because of one arc that had retarded power levels, but I wont argue his ban.

Originally posted by Ambient
Right but summoning dimension be considered same as summoning construct? basically? like occupying space.

You can't summon past your own power levels. Like Strange summoning Shuma. Someone mentioned Tony summoning his armors which is a great example so long as the number that he summons does not exceed his ability to put them down if the situation was reverse

Originally posted by Digi
I would assume not. There is ample precedent from past tourneys if needed. It belongs to the team, not a single character's standard equipment.

I hear you, but:


Standard Equipment
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In a scenario fight, the contestants in whose city/reality the fight takes place are allowed access to any material resources they usually have there or of any team they're active members of, as long as they can reasonably get to them. For example, in a scenario set in the DCU, Green Lantern would have access to equipment in the JLA Watchtower, but not the Titans headquarters....

Or is this not a scenario fight?

KMC Tournament - Vote to Ban Characters

KMC Tournament - Vote to Ban Character

Re: The Official 2015 KMC Tournament Low Herald

Originally posted by "Id"
[b]Rules

Power Level & Format: 2-character amalgam. Low Herald each.

Total Power Cap After Amalgamation: Mid Herald (upper limit example: Cpt. Marvel, WW). Energy Output or Maximum Force the Amalgam character can exert is City Leveling.

Post Limit: 5

CIS & PIS is OFF!: We are drafting 2 characters, and its abilities. You the participant take ownership of how said characters & abilities will be realized in combat.

Character Knowledge: Contestants are fully aware the characters drafted, including its history, and weaknesses.
Also the Amalgam can use powers as good as the originals.

Amping Rules: Disallowed. Materials that aid a power (i.e. Jeffries/adamantium) are allowed. Power amping is not (i.e. The Ray + Kara)

Tech Creation & Non-Autonomous Constructs/Summons: Low Herald limit

Prep: You are given time to raise shields. Otherwise NO prep time.

TP: Emma limit.

Speed: Up to lightspeed.

Banned Powers: Reality Warp, Time Manip., Duplication, Power Copying, Autonomous Constructs (tech or magic), Memory Retention

Note: Space Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, and the Speed Force is allowed provided that the drafted characters are low herald and below.

Functional Immortals are Banned: Functional immortals such as Lobo, Mr. Immortal, Deadpool are disallowed or voided. The drafted characters cannot sustain consistent City Leveling attacks. Nor can they erect force field that can sustain consistent City Leveling attacks [/B]

just quoting this because it feels a little like things are...getting out of hand. already. now, i guess the emma limit is already gone, but, it really feels like we're looking at capping the power level not at high mid herald, but rather at high herald levels. i'd just like clarification on the above rules and which ones are and are not still in play... don't forget--the mid herald amalgam limit in my tourney was set because we had a low herald and a high meta. here it's 2 low heralds, so, maybe upping the cap to high herald would be a fair decision...? /shrug

Rules

Power Level & Format: 2-character amalgam. Low Herald each.

Total Power Cap After Amalgamation: Energy Output Limit or Maximum Force the Amalgam character can exert is City Leveling.

Even if the character can exceed the limit to planet, or star busting, tournament caps nerfs them City Level.

Post Limit: 5

CIS & PIS is OFF!: We are drafting 2 characters, and its abilities. You the participant take ownership of how said characters & abilities will be realized in combat.

Character Knowledge: Contestants are fully aware the characters drafted, including its history, and weaknesses.
Also the Amalgam can use powers as good as the originals.

Amping Rules: Disallowed. Materials that aid a power (i.e. Jeffries/adamantium) are allowed. Power amping is not (i.e. The Ray + Kara)

Tech Creation & Non-Autonomous Constructs/Summons: Low Herald limit

Prep: You are given time to raise shields. Otherwise NO prep time.

Creating gear can only take place in the heat of battle, after the bell has rung.

TP: Low Herald

Speed: Up to lightspeed.

Banned Powers: Reality Warp, Time Manip., Duplication, Power Copying, Autonomous Constructs (tech or magic), Memory Retention

Note: Space Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, and the Speed Force is allowed provided that the drafted characters are low herald and below.

Functional Immortals are Banned: Functional immortals such as Lobo, Mr. Immortal, Deadpool are disallowed or voided. The drafted characters cannot sustain consistent City Leveling attacks. Nor can they erect force field that can sustain consistent City Leveling attacks

Standard Gear Rule Character comes in with what he is historically known for caring.

Non standard gear must be created you NOT grab it from your lab, and equip yourself with it.

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What do you mean about this?

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Because it was mentioned.

No you can not summon an entire realm or dimension.

Ugh, nerfing powers without limiting picks. That's the only thing that, historically, is a mess. Expect a bunch of "mine is exactly at the allowable caps for power output" arguments matched against one another, while the judges are looking at planet-busting feats and such, and unsure of what should be considered.

Just be a stickler on the no amping rules, and you'll actually have a chance at staying under those caps.

Everything else looks decent. You still need a rule on BFR and self-BFR, unless you're dealing with guys like Atom and astral beings individually.