Closer to trans tier...

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Approval? No son, it's on you to back up claims that you make. You were contending that Triumph was magically powered, not that he was amped. I guess you are finally admitting that he wasn't magically powered. Thanks for the concession. By the way, genius, stop misusing the word "explicitly."

Haha, what? I already posted scans for it. If you can't accept it and are just going to deny everything, it's not my problem.

And yes, Triumph was magically powered since he was powered up by an imp. Anything you want to add?

Originally posted by One-Punch
Claiming the only herald Surfer has beaten is Morg is the very definition low-balling. Actually it's worse, it's an outright lie.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, what? I already posted scans for it. If you can't accept it and are just going to deny everything, it's not my problem.

And yes, Triumph was magically powered since he was powered up by an imp. Anything you want to add?

Yes, and your scans prove you wrong and everyone beside Rao agrees with me. It's sad to witness this level of denial by anyone. He was not powered up, that's an interference on your part. He used his own power to drain Superman and Superman said nothing about being vulnerable to a magical presence. It's just not there. So until you can provide proof, you can stop lying.

Take the Triumph argument back to the Superman v Surfer thread. Really don't need that shit spilling over in to here.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Take the Triumph argument back to the Superman v Surfer thread. Really don't need that shit spilling over in to here.

Lots of the threads in this forum make me want to poke pencils in my eyes.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Yes, and your scans prove you wrong and everyone beside Rao agrees with me. It's sad to witness this level of denial by anyone. He was not powered up, that's an interference on your part. He used his own power to drain Superman and Superman said nothing about being vulnerable to a magical presence. It's just not there. So until you can provide proof, you can stop lying.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Take the Triumph argument back to the Superman v Surfer thread. Really don't need that shit spilling over in to here.

Originally posted by carver9
Based off their showings (everything counts here), who is closer to trans tier? Please rate them from Greatest to least greatest.

Thor
Superman
Surfer

Please explain your answer.

Absorbing Gorr's Godbomb detonation (after it's exploded) that's killing every single god in the future, the present and the past??? wat

Dr. Strange has more than tier feats than all of them.

Thor

Only because superman is way above. 🙂

Bump

Originally posted by carver9
Based off their showings (everything counts here), who is closer to trans tier? Please rate them from Greatest to least greatest.

Thor
Superman
Surfer

Please explain your answer.

Superman. He's the strongest, has the greatest potential (due to speed and sundipping), and has the most powerful blasts.

Surfer is 2nd due to speed and ability to create black holes.

Thor is 3rd since he has the power but lacks the speed and intelligence (he chooses to fight like a warrior and brawls alot).

Now, with CIS off characters then
Surfer is the most powerful of the 3 then Superman then Thor.

Wow, H1 actually agreeing surfer is more powerful?

talking about who ss beat--don't forget how he humiliated maestro not long ago. i found that pretty damn impressive....

Nice sig leo.

thanks. 🙂 i'm not much of a sig guy. i keep it simple but thought that pretty much summed up vader, whom i love. the new star wars stuff has been fantastic imo. 👆

Originally posted by leonidas
thanks. 🙂 i'm not much of a sig guy. i keep it simple but thought that pretty much summed up vader, whom i love. the new star wars stuff has been fantastic imo. 👆

Definitely, the art is really good especially.

I feel like my earlier answer still holds up pretty well.

Originally posted by Digi
Technically, as the tiers thread first existed, the high herald tier was one of the few that was bookended specifically by a character. Most tiers were much more nebulous in their upper and lower limits. But Surfer represented the upper limit of the tier. Anyone beyond him was considered Trans. So forum sentiment has shifted slightly since then.

Functionally speaking, though, these three are basically equals. So as to quell the posts of "If Surfer is the upper limit, Superman/Thor are Trans." They are so damn close to being equal that it doesn't really matter if one edges out another. In practice, they collectively represent the top of the tier.

Anyone trying to actually pick one is splitting hairs. We tend to despise ambiguity in favor of polarization, but sometimes a shrug is the best answer.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I'd say it goes like this.

1. Superman

2. Thor

3. Surfer

Now first of all I am going to say I think Surfer is closer to the Trans Tier than any of the other 3 here. But I am basing my opinion on what we see in the comics. Surfer would #1 by this far

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

If he acted on the power that he has inside him. But he just doesn't. He is extremely pacifistic, and rarely if ever actually goes ham on a character. If he had the mindset of say Thor then yeah he could easily be above everyone here but he doesn't. So despite the fact that in my opinion in general based on potential and Surfer's power and potential he would be far above everyone here. His pacifistic nature prevents that. Which is why he is at the bottom.

Superman I would say is closer to the Trans Tier than Thor is again the fact that he does a lot of holding back (which Thor also does). But when Superman goes all out it's a sight to behold. He displays gargantuan amounts of power that is something to behold. It's not even just his strength, or his heat vision. He is also has other things like his speed although that isn't as important. I just think Superman if he isn't holding back (subconsciously or consciously) he just impresses much more than Thor does. It's something we rarely see (Superman not holding back) and everyone is impressed when he doesn't.

Thor comes second because while he has impressive feats (such as hurting Glory) and he is a tough bastard with his durability He can also put a hurting on a lot of people in the Herald Tier and shows some degree of being able to affect people outside of his tier (Trans etc). I already mentioned Glory but when he can he has knocked Thanos (he may not have hurt him much if not at all but it shows he packs a ton of power). I could bring up a ton of other things but I would end up writing 30,000 + words. I just don't think at the end of it while Surfer [B]should be much higher than these guys here (and to note he probably is, he just doesn't exhibit in comics. It's a hard thing to debate but I just find that Superman is just that bit above Thor.

I should clarify in comparison to Superman Thor is absolutely not trailing in power (far from it). I just think he is just a bit above Thor. This is to say that a fight between them with them both going all out is not a Stomp for Superman. It's just Superman takes more wins than his losses.

Now if we were to go on potential at maximum capacity then it would be.

1. Surfer

2.Superman
3.Thor

But this just isn't shown in comics.

Apologies if this is a bit of a crazy write up or anything. [/B]

This it not a "versus" thread, Darksaint.