Originally posted by psmith81992
I would love to find out where you get your hilariously misinformed sources. And as along as Khomeini is the spiritual leader, Iran will still be Iran. This is just amusing.
Azadeh Moeveni former middle eastern correspondent for Time magazine. An altogether more informed source than you, clearly.
I'm sure she also knows that Khomeini has been dead for 26 years unlike you, apparently.
Lets burn through though since we were, I will settle at nothing but complete destruction of the Iranian sympathizers.
State sponsored terrorism
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2013/224826.htm
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/30-years-terror-sponsored-iran-article-1.1493410
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/axis/terror.html
Originally posted by jaden101
Azadeh Moeveni former middle eastern correspondent for Time magazine. An altogether more informed source than you, clearly.I'm sure she also knows that Khomeini has been dead for 26 years unlike you, apparently.
You know who I meant. But what's even more amusing is that instead of posting an article or anything of substance, your response was "this person for this magazine". I think we all get where you stand. Your continued ignorance is shocking.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Hahaha!!!You said the leadership has changed! I just proved to you it has not!
Nice try backing out though.
Also they are suppressing any change from the younger population.
The deal just done disproves your assumption. Unless you're implying that the same deal would have occurred under Ahmadinejad which is utter nonsense.
Originally posted by jaden101
The deal just done disproves your assumption. Unless you're implying that the same deal would have occurred under Ahmadinejad which is utter nonsense.
Are you aware this deal is no deal at all but complete BS and political legacy for Obama that he made some deal, regardless if its a good deal.
I have stated over and over all the problems with this bad deal, you IGNORE every one of them and just yap yap yap, saying "OH THEY GOOD NOW!"
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Lets burn though since we were, I will settle at nothing but complete destruction of the Iranian sympathizers.State sponsored terrorism
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2013/224826.htm
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/30-years-terror-sponsored-iran-article-1.1493410
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/axis/terror.html
And you can't rebut this, although I would LOVE to see you try.
Originally posted by jaden101
Azadeh Moeveni former middle eastern correspondent for Time magazine. An altogether more informed source than you, clearly.I'm sure she also knows that Khomeini has been dead for 26 years unlike you, apparently.
Sharpshooting a simple mistake does not do anything but highlight your living on a prayer for a win.
Originally posted by psmith81992
You know who I meant. But what's even more amusing is that instead of posting an article or anything of substance, your response was "this person for this magazine". I think we all get where you stand. Your continued ignorance is shocking.
My ignorance? An odd statement from someone whose political knowledge of the middle east seems to be hewn from politicians who can't even point the countries out on a map.
I can see your opinion changing drastically once Iran opens up to US and European businesses which is what this deal is the precursor to.
My ignorance? An odd statement from someone whose political knowledge of the middle east seems to be hewn from politicians who can't even point the countries out on a map.
I can see your opinion changing drastically once Iran opens up to US and European businesses which is what this deal is the precursor to.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Lets burn through since we were, I will settle at nothing but complete destruction of the Iranian sympathizers.State sponsored terrorism
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2013/224826.htm
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/30-years-terror-sponsored-iran-article-1.1493410
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/axis/terror.html
Keep dodging Jaden, this destroys your argument but hey, I'll keep posting it for ya.
IRAN
Designated as a State Sponsor of Terrorism in 1984, Iran continued its terrorist-related activity, including support for Palestinian terrorist groups in Gaza, and for Hizballah. It has also increased its presence in Africa and attempted to smuggle arms to Houthi separatists in Yemen and Shia oppositionists in Bahrain. Iran used the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Qods Force (IRGC-QF) and its regional proxy groups to implement foreign policy goals, provide cover for intelligence operations, and create instability in the Middle East. The IRGC-QF is the regime’s primary mechanism for cultivating and supporting terrorists abroad.
Iran views Syria as a crucial causeway in its weapons supply route to Hizballah, its primary beneficiary. In 2013, Iran continued to provide arms, financing, training, and the facilitation of Iraqi Shia fighters to the Asad regime’s brutal crackdown, a crackdown that has resulted in the death of more than 100,000 civilians in Syria. Iran has publicly admitted sending members of the IRGC to Syria in an advisory role. There are reports indicating some of these troops are IRGC-QF members and that they have taken part in direct combat operations. In February, senior IRGC-QF commander Brigadier General Hassan Shateri was killed in or near Zabadani, Syria. This was the first publicly announced death of a senior Iranian military official in Syria. In November, IRGC-QF commander Mohammad Jamalizadeh Paghaleh was also killed in Aleppo, Syria. Subsequent Iranian media reports stated that Paghaleh was volunteering in Syria to defend the Sayyida Zainab mosque, which is located in Damascus. The location of Paghaleh’s death, over 200 miles away from the mosque he was reported to be protecting, demonstrated Iran’s intent to mask the operations of IRGC-QF forces in Syria.
Iran has historically provided weapons, training, and funding to Hamas and other Palestinian terrorist groups, including the Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ) and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC), although Hamas’s ties to Tehran have been strained due to the Syrian civil war. Since the end of the 2006 Israeli-Hizballah conflict, Iran has also assisted in rearming Hizballah, in direct violation of UNSCR 1701. Iran has provided hundreds of millions of dollars in support of Hizballah in Lebanon and has trained thousands of its fighters at camps in Iran. These trained fighters often use these skills in support of the Assad regime in Syria.
Despite its pledge to support Iraq’s stabilization, Iran trained, funded, and provided guidance to Iraqi Shia militant groups. The IRGC-QF, in concert with Hizballah, provided training outside of Iraq as well as advisors inside Iraq for Shia militants in the construction and use of sophisticated improvised explosive device technology and other advanced weaponry. Similar to Hizballah fighters, many of these trained Shia militants then use these skills to fight for the Assad regime in Syria, often at the behest of Iran.
On January 23, 2013, Yemeni authorities seized an Iranian dhow, the Jihan, off the coast of Yemen. The dhow was carrying sophisticated Chinese antiaircraft missiles, C-4 explosives, rocket-propelled grenades, and a number of other weapons and explosives. The shipment of lethal aid was likely headed to Houthi separatists in Northern Yemen. Iran actively supports members of the Houthi movement, including activities intended to build military capabilities, which could pose a greater threat to security and stability in Yemen and the surrounding region.
In late April 2013, the Government of Bosnia declared two Iranian diplomats, Jadidi Sohrab and Hamzeh Dolab Ahmad, persona non grata after Israeli intelligence reported they were members of Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence and Security. One of the two men had been spotted in India, Georgia, and Thailand, all of which were sites of a simultaneous bombing campaign in February 2012, according to Israeli intelligence. Both diplomats were subsequently expelled from Bosnia.
On December 29, 2013, the Bahraini Coast Guard interdicted a speedboat filled with weapons and explosives that was likely bound for Shia oppositionists in Bahrain, specifically the 14 February Youth Coalition (14 FYC). Bahraini authorities accused the IRGC-QF of providing opposition militants with explosives training in order to carry out attacks in Bahrain. The interdiction led to the discovery of two weapons and explosives cache sites in Bahrain, the dismantling of a car bomb, and the arrest of 15 Bahraini nationals.
Iran remained unwilling to bring to justice senior al-Qa’ida (AQ) members it continued to detain, and refused to publicly identify those senior members in its custody. Iran allowed AQ facilitators Muhsin al-Fadhli and Adel Radi Saqr al-Wahabi al-Harbi to operate a core facilitation pipeline through Iran, enabling AQ to move funds and fighters to South Asia and also to Syria. Al-Fadhli is a veteran AQ operative who has been active for years. Al-Fadhli began working with the Iran-based AQ facilitation network in 2009 and was later arrested by Iranian authorities. He was released in 2011 and assumed leadership of the Iran-based AQ facilitation network.
Iran remains a state of proliferation concern. Despite multiple UNSCRs requiring Iran to suspend its sensitive nuclear proliferation activities, Iran continued to violate its international obligations regarding its nuclear program. For further information, see the Report to Congress on Iran-related Multilateral Sanctions Regime Efforts (November 2013), and the Report on the Status of Bilateral and Multilateral Efforts Aimed at Curtailing the Pursuit of Iran of Nuclear Weapons Technology (September 2012).
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Lets burn through though since we were, I will settle at nothing but complete destruction of the Iranian sympathizers.State sponsored terrorism
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2013/224826.htm
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/30-years-terror-sponsored-iran-article-1.1493410
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/axis/terror.html
And yet despite that, in the last year the US has provided air support to Hezbollah fighting in Syria.
Despite this the US currently shares a military Base in Iraq with Iranian militias
The state.gov article even states that one of the steps in removing a state sponsor of terror from the list is removing sanctions...and what's happening as part of this deal?
Things change. As Iraq is proof of. Once the darling of the west then bombed back to the stone age. Libya was the opposite. Once hated by the west then embraced and then hated again. Cuba. Hated by the US for the better part of 60 years and look what's happening now. The list goes on. Russia, Germany, south Africa, Things.....change.
Originally posted by red g jacks
it's sort of funny to me that americans talk about mid-east geopolitics as if they are israeliscan someone remind me why our primary concern in the mid-east should be the security of israel?
We have a German on here who loves to talk about American politics. Never seen you have a problem with it.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You really think because they are working with us, because they need our help with ISIS they will stop state funded terror and stop burning our flags and chanting death to America? You cant be that naive.Russia never was willing to strap bombs to their chest for Jihad.
I don't really think I can give a starker example of how things change than America only a fear years ago condemning Hezbollah as a terrorist organisation and now working with them.
I'll give you some examples of how the political change in Iran is an inevitability
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/06/the-iran-we-dont-see-a-tour-of-the-country-where-people-love-americans/258166/
http://www.vox.com/2015/7/12/8933915/iran-middle-east
That second article brings an interesting point in that Iran is unlike any other nation in that most arab countries have regimes that are pro western and populations that are anti western and Iran has traditionally had the opposite. A pro western population and an anti western leadership. Seems they are well on the path to having both being pro western. It also makes a point about the Quds day traditions.
I'd post more but it's nearly 5am here.
Originally posted by red g jacks
it's sort of funny to me that americans talk about mid-east geopolitics as if they are israeliscan someone remind me why our primary concern in the mid-east should be the security of israel?
Originally posted by psmith81992
Since Israel is our biggest ally in the middle east?
😂
Clearly people have literally forgotten everything, including our allies, in favor of our enemy.