Self Defense
Many here are against guns/weapons. However don't have a viable solution to self defense.
What do you do if your home is invaded and your family is endanger, which happens every 30 seconds in America.
What if your in your car and being assaulted, car jacked with your family in the car?
With the police on the run lately, and they only show up after the crime.
How do you defend yourself?
Re: Self Defense
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Many here are against guns/weapons. However don't have a viable solution to self defense.What do you do if your home is invaded and your family is endanger, which happens every 30 seconds in America.
What if your in your car and being assaulted, car jacked with your family in the car?
With the police on the run lately, and they only show up after the crime.
How do you defend yourself?
Well, apparently, if you're from Germany you just cry like a wussy.
Well I'll play the target here- I'd like guns mostly removed from the US, much as they are here. Of course, that wouldn't be something done quickly and in isolation; it would come after a very elongated period of cultural change where the fanatic reverence for the gun is reduced in the US, so it's not in a society where the rate at which people carry, draw and are prepared to fire guns is so absurdly high compared to any other western nation.
Hence you would not have such an issue of criminals with guns, and you wouldn't have gun-armed intruders breaking into your house.
Not that I believe, in any case, that having a gun stops people with guns targeting you- it just leads to an arms race.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
That is actually ok.
But it is not though, just in my city alone I've seen cases of people getting in trouble for shooting home invaders. One was a guy who was in trouble because he emptied an entire clip into someone and it was seen as excessive. I could fully see myself, in the heat of the moment and being scared for my life, emptying every last bullet into a guy.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Well I'll play the target here- I'd like guns mostly removed from the US, much as they are here. Of course, that wouldn't be something done quickly and in isolation; it would come after a very elongated period of cultural change where the fanatic reverence for the gun is reduced in the US, so it's not in a society where the rate at which people carry, draw and are prepared to fire guns is so absurdly high compared to any other western nation.Hence you would not have such an issue of criminals with guns, and you wouldn't have gun-armed intruders breaking into your house.
Not that I believe, in any case, that having a gun stops people with guns targeting you- it just leads to an arms race.
Drugs are illegal and people still get them. Do you think banning guns will stop criminals from getting them?
I mean I honestly have no problem when you say get rid of guns. The only thing is..you can only do it if you can do it in a way that guarantee's we won't end up in a situation where the only people in the country with guns are now the criminals. In other words, the solution has to involve a way of preventing people from illegally getting guns in the country.
Otherwise, our own people will perpetuate this, because you will have the people who like guns but are not criminals...buying their guns now from criminals, since they can't get them anywhere else but criminals can.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Drugs are illegal and people still get them. Do you think banning guns will stop criminals from getting them?
The argument of "all or nothing" is silly when it comes to laws.
Do people run through red lights? Yes. Does that mean we should do away with traffic lights because some people choose to not obey that law?
edit: Bashar beat me to it
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Drugs are illegal and people still get them. Do you think banning guns will stop criminals from getting them?
Literally speaking, no.
Practically speaking, countries with gun control laws have far less gun violence than those without them- though as I have said before, really this is down to the laws reflecting/encouraging cultural shifts.
Like Bardock says, this sort of thing doesn't happen here- he says it for Germany, I say it for the UK. For gun armed intruders to break into houses here is exceptionally rare. It's not a problem that needs solving- and even if it was, guns wouldn't solve it.
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Yes they do. Its just not popular to talk about it. Well their socialist/progressive media doesn't like too talk about it......much like our media. [/B]
There are 0.2 (per 100.000) gun homicides in Germany per year, as opposed to 3.5 in the US. So yes, this does happen almost 18 times as often in the US.