i mean honestly it seems a bit crazy to compare the united states to england or some european country... just from a logistical pov
america has a few things that those other countries don't
i.e. we're not an island, we have 2 massive borders to patrol and access to both the atlantic and pacific oceans. i mean they can't stop the cartels from running drugs across the border but somehow when we ban guns they'll be able to stop them from running guns? i just don't see it.
Originally posted by red g jacks
i mean honestly it seems a bit crazy to compare the united states to england or some european country... just from a logistical povamerica has a few things that those other countries don't
i.e. we're not an island, we have 2 massive borders to patrol and access to both the atlantic and pacific oceans. i mean they can't stop the cartels from running drugs across the border but somehow when we ban guns they'll be able to stop them from running guns? i just don't see it.
You realise far more guns go from America to Mexico than the other way round don't you? Some 70% of all drug cartel weaponry is from the US and a chunk of it was sanctioned by the ATF and CIA.
I don't like guns, and I would like to see better procedures for keeping them away from criminals. But my problem isn't that guns exist in the US. My problem is that the gun laws don't draw the line. You want a handgun or hunting rifle? Fine. Do you need an assault rifle or extended magazines? No you don't.
Here's my philosophy on having a gun for self-defense. I'm only speaking for myself here.
I don't expect to ever be held at gunpoint, though I know it's very possible with all the guns in this country. But if it happens, I doubt having a gun would help because I'm not going to always have my gun handy, if I had one I'd keep it safely locked up (and it's very unlikely I'll get to it if someone just breaks into my house/apartment), and I know enough about myself to know I'm probably not a great shot when I'm frightened, so I don't really see the use of a gun for myself, at least not for self-defense.
I'll probably eventually get one for hunting and sport shooting though. That shit's fun.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Here's my philosophy on having a gun for self-defense. I'm only speaking for myself here.I don't expect to ever be held at gunpoint, though I know it's very possible with all the guns in this country. But if it happens, I doubt having a gun would help because I'm not going to always have my gun handy, if I had one I'd keep it safely locked up (and it's very unlikely I'll get to it if someone just breaks into my house/apartment), and I know enough about myself to know I'm probably not a great shot when I'm frightened, so I don't really see the use of a gun for myself, at least not for self-defense.
I'll probably eventually get one for hunting and sport shooting though. That shit's fun.
Originally posted by Robtard
There's a problem with your opening sentence, very few people (I actually can only think of one and he doesn't post anymore) here are against guns. The people you clash with on guns generally want better gun control/laws, not the confiscation of every weapon in America.
Well actually, I'm one more of those people that believe that Americans no longer need guns. There are far more Police officers these days than when the 2nd Amendment was passed. Countries that prohibit their citizens from carrying guns are less likely to have people being killed by guns, and that's a hard cold fact. I am completely against people being able to purchase fire arms. Hunting animals for sport should be abolished as well. I mean it's not as if we don't have enough ecotones spread all over the world due to the destruction of entire animal habitats. This also leads to more innocent animals being killed by Police that are unable to deal with wild bears, and other powerful animals running through cities. Guns don't kill people, people kill people, but guns make it much easier for this to happen.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Drugs are illegal and people still get them. Do you think banning guns will stop criminals from getting them?
No, but it makes it a lot more difficult for your average student to get their irresponsible hands on one. How often have you really had to use a gun? How often have you even had to physically defend yourself as an adult?
Originally posted by Shinobi Popcorn
I don't like guns, and I would like to see better procedures for keeping them away from criminals. But my problem isn't that guns exist in the US. My problem is that the gun laws don't draw the line. You want a handgun or hunting rifle? Fine. Do you need an assault rifle or extended magazines? No you don't.
I agree with this
can somebody please give me the laymans terms of the 2nd ? amendment concerning the right to bear arms
and what those arms range from
Obama coming after guns again, this time its against people on social security.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-gun-law-20150718-story.html#page=1
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Obama coming after guns again, this time its against people on social security.http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-gun-law-20150718-story.html#page=1
Specifically for people who were deemed by the state to not be able to take care of themselves/their own affairs.
Let me ask you this, if there was a man (we'll call him "Bob"😉 who was not mentally fit to care for himself, do you think Bob should be allowed to own a gun?
I have no idea, I would imagine that there are deaths/murders by people who were or are on SS, considering the high amount of gun violence in the US.
That's not the point though. I ask again, do you think someone who is labeled not mentally fit enough to feed themselves and pay bills, being mentally fit enough to own a gun?