Goku vs Superman Death Battle-Discuss

Originally posted by cdtm
Do you legitimately believe Goku's speed, durability, and strength are > high herald level on average?

Superman left the heralds a loooong time ago. Can surfer survive a supernova? And don't tell me you believe that Thor can actually STOP superman from moving circles around him. Supes have a large advantage in this fight though, too many feats of him doing it well of speed mixed with all kinds of over the top showings! Goku was bleeding from a hand gun bullet, which begs the question if he could takes bullet from more lethal guns like the assault rifle. A low intensity TEST of heat vision will make superman go for a knock out punch instead. Can you cleverly depict supes speed in super then? You all make it real obvious that NOBODY can touch goku unless it's a super character, and supes is definitely the person with better speed feats!

You're full of it, Supes is a snail! (Seriously, who are he responding to? 😕 )

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
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Superman is the source of the DC Omniverse, this was stated on panel. "Everything comes from Superman". He is "a Nexus being on a Nexus planet". He can shatter Multiversal bounbdaries, lift an infinite weight IF he has to. He has no limit because his story powers everything. Sure in a story he might fail or have a hard time but if the stakes are high he will beat the unbeatable, he will overcome anyone. And since we don't lowball and take the true Superman, he stomps the DB Verse.

So Loïs is half the source of the DC Omniverse ?

Originally posted by cdtm
You're full of it, Supes is a snail! (Seriously, who are he responding to? 😕 )

You got confuse, which will be any herald plus thor. That's what supes does well, he remains super. If he perform a feat at least three times then he's capable of doing that feat. So in super the sayians were shown being susceptible to coventional weapons along with the planets environment. Sorry for the wording.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
So Loïs is half the source of the DC Omniverse ?

No, she is a vital part of his story, no more no less. She is a metatextual reason and wields no power, he broke the multiversal boundaries for her, if you can follow me. Yes, Superman can perform omniversal feats, this is common knowledge and not breaking news.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
No, she is a vital part of his story, no more no less. She is a metatextual reason and wields no power, he broke the multiversal boundaries for her, if you can follow me. Yes, Superman can perform omniversal feats, this is common knowledge and not breaking news.

I have the feeling that you are mixing-up the power of the character with his importance to the DC Universe intentionally when it's two different things.

He is.

Originally posted by carver9
He is.

But nothing in the World can interpretate a character so far away from his original abilities than the ShariForce...

Read and laugh.

"Immortality", "planet-level strength", etc...

Looks like an illiterate retarded fanboy redacted it.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
I have the feeling that you are mixing-up the power of the character with his importance to the DC Universe intentionally when it's two different things.

When you read FC and OWAW at the very least you would understand that it's not different at all in the case of Superman.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
When you read FC and OWAW at the very least you would understand that it's not different at all in the case of Superman.

I agree with you when you say that he is DC's iconic character and that all of the stories revolves around him

BUT

I disagree with Superman being omniversal in power.

Remember that he needed several billion years to store the energy necessary to save one universe.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
I agree with you when you say that he is DC's iconic character and that all of the stories revolves around him

BUT

I disagree with Superman being omniversal in power.

[B]Remember that he needed several billion years to store the energy necessary to save one universe. [/B]

You can disagree and be wrong. More power to you.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3848/15225410422_c1beef8eb1_o.jpg

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
You can disagree and be wrong. More power to you.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3848/15225410422_c1beef8eb1_o.jpg

That just shows that all Supermen are linked.

This doesn't show omniversal power.

Originally posted by carver9
He is.

Or maybe he reads comics? Not just some cherry picked scans, but entire issues for full context?

Originally posted by cdtm
Or maybe he reads comics? Not just some cherry picked scans, but entire issues for full context?

Hhhhmmm, I guess I read comics every week for nothing. You're the one that post websites when people ask you for scans. Sad little man.

Originally posted by carver9
Hhhhmmm, I guess I read comics every week for nothing. You're the one that post websites when people ask you for scans. Sad little man.

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cdtm tend to ignore what have been previously posted.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
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cdtm tend to ignore what have been previously posted.

Something that's wrong the first time tends to stay wrong every time after that. 😛

Goku barely has a Universal feat, and he's fans says he's Universal.

Superman now has multiple Universal feats, plus Multiversal feats, and the Goku fans refuse to accept it.

****ing double standards don't you guys think?

Originally posted by SquallX
Goku barely has a Universal feat, and he's fans says he's Universal.

Superman now has multiple Universal feats, plus Multiversal feats, and the Goku fans refuse to accept it.

****ing double standards don't you guys think?

Superman hasn't even a feat where he is capable to one-shot a planet...

Originally posted by RealityWarper
That just shows that all Supermen are linked.

This doesn't show omniversal power.

If you read the arc and FC you would know that Superman is the key to the omniverse, that indeed he and his story powers everything that exists, that he and his story are the reason why everything exists.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
If you read the arc and FC you would know that Superman is the key to the omniverse, that indeed he and his story powers everything that exists, that he and his story are the reason why everything exists.

A) Superman never demonstrated a power at that scale.

B) In Strange Visitor, he took him billions of billions of years to glean the power necessary to save one universe.

C) He doesn't have the power to one-shot a moon-sized item with one punch as he needs to charge through it like a bullet.

D) When Superman died the DC Omniverse didn't disappear...

Fixing one reality via reuniting with his old self is due to the mechanics of this reality, not because of Superman power.