Goku vs Superman Death Battle-Discuss

Started by juggerman183 pages
Originally posted by Galan007
Coming soon.

Thanks broseph

The south galaxy was NOT destroyed. I've debunked this myth a few times in the past, but I guess I'll do so again...

Firstly, how do we explain Movie 8's opening sequence, in which the south galaxy is seemingly destroyed in one fell swoop? Simple: we refer back to Kaioshin's statement immediately following that scene in the original(and most canon) Japanese-dub of the film:

Kaio: "The Southern Galaxy has fallen under Super Saiyan attack!"

Kaio later tells Goku: "First go check the Southern Galaxy..." Which means it was still there for him to 'check'.

Paragus later states: "[Broly] is wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power."

Anyway, while Goku was IT'ing through the south galaxy, we saw him streaking past a multitude of stars:

If stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.

Once Goku arrived on one of the planets in the south galaxy that Broly caused surface-level damage to, not only do we see another intact planet in the background, but we also see multiple stars in the background as well:

If planets and stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.

This is a screen-cap taken just before Comet Camori strikes New Vegeta(which, again, is IN the south galaxy):

Innumerable stars in the background+the planet itself. If planets and stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.

...And this is all secondary to that fact that IF Broly destroyed the south galaxy, he would have had to do so as a RESTRAINED-SSJ(which was the most powerful form he could assume while being mind-controlled by Paragus), because he was NEVER able to access LSSJ until he battled the Z fighters toward the end of the film. This is important because Goku was able to contend equally with restrained-SSJ Broly as a base-level Saiyan--so if restrained-SSJ Broly is a galaxy-buster, then you must be prepared to call base-level Goku a galaxy-buster as well, given that they were equals.

...And considering that even as of BoG, base-level Goku was still sub-Freeza-level, I find it quite laughable to assume that he(and/or those in that tier) was a galactic power... Especially YEARS earlier(during Movie 8/Cell-era), when he would have logically been much weaker.

#Facts

Originally posted by Galan007
The south galaxy was NOT destroyed. I've debunked this myth a few times in the past, but I guess I'll do so again...

Firstly, how do we explain Movie 8's opening sequence, in which the south galaxy is seemingly destroyed in one fell swoop? Simple: we refer back to Kaioshin's statement immediately following that scene in the original(and most canon) Japanese-dub of the film:

Kaio: [b]"The Southern Galaxy has fallen under Super Saiyan attack!"

Kaio later tells Goku: "First go check the Southern Galaxy..." Which means it was still there for him to 'check'.

Paragus later states: "[Broly] is wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power."

Anyway, while Goku was IT'ing through the south galaxy, we saw him streaking past a multitude of stars:

If stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.

Once Goku arrived on one of the planets in the south galaxy that Broly caused surface-level damage to, not only do we see another intact planet in the background, but we also see multiple stars in the background as well:

If planets and stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.

This is a screen-cap taken just before Comet Camori strikes New Vegeta(which, again, is IN the south galaxy):

Innumerable stars in the background+the planet itself. If planets and stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.

...And this is all secondary to that fact that IF Broly destroyed the south galaxy, he would have had to do so as a RESTRAINED-SSJ(which was the most powerful form he could assume while being mind-controlled by Paragus), because he was NEVER able to access LSSJ until he battled the Z fighters toward the end of the film. This is important because Goku was able to contend equally with restrained-SSJ Broly as a base-level Saiyan--so if restrained-SSJ Broly is a galaxy-buster, then you must be prepared to call base-level Goku a galaxy-buster as well, given that they were equals.

...And considering that even as of BoG, base-level Goku was still sub-Freeza-level, I find it quite laughable to assume that he(and/or those in that tier) was a galactic power... Especially YEARS earlier(during Movie 8/Cell-era), when he would have logically been much weaker.

#Facts [/B]

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Originally posted by Galan007
The south galaxy was NOT destroyed. I've debunked this myth a few times in the past, but I guess I'll do so again...

Firstly, how do we explain Movie 8's opening sequence, in which the south galaxy is seemingly destroyed in one fell swoop? Simple: we refer back to Kaioshin's statement immediately following that scene in the original(and most canon) Japanese-dub of the film:

Kaio: [b]"The Southern Galaxy has fallen under Super Saiyan attack!"

Kaio later tells Goku: "First go check the Southern Galaxy..." Which means it was still there for him to 'check'.

Paragus later states: "[Broly] is wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power."

Anyway, while Goku was IT'ing through the south galaxy, we saw him streaking past a multitude of stars:

If stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.

Once Goku arrived on one of the planets in the south galaxy that Broly caused surface-level damage to, not only do we see another intact planet in the background, but we also see multiple stars in the background as well:

If planets and stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.

This is a screen-cap taken just before Comet Camori strikes New Vegeta(which, again, is IN the south galaxy):

Innumerable stars in the background+the planet itself. If planets and stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.

...And this is all secondary to that fact that IF Broly destroyed the south galaxy, he would have had to do so as a RESTRAINED-SSJ(which was the most powerful form he could assume while being mind-controlled by Paragus), because he was NEVER able to access LSSJ until he battled the Z fighters toward the end of the film. This is important because Goku was able to contend equally with restrained-SSJ Broly as a base-level Saiyan--so if restrained-SSJ Broly is a galaxy-buster, then you must be prepared to call base-level Goku a galaxy-buster as well, given that they were equals.

...And considering that even as of BoG, base-level Goku was still sub-Freeza-level, I find it quite laughable to assume that he(and/or those in that tier) was a galactic power... Especially YEARS earlier(during Movie 8/Cell-era), when he would have logically been much weaker.

#Facts [/B]


Rekt level has exceeded 9000.

Superman > Goku

Deal
With
It

damn galan broke it down #bossshit

And Carver hasn't returned

Let's hope he never will...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Superman did something much worse, actually. Called ambulance for Mongul who was about to kill Lois.

And can't give Lois any children because he's impotent.

The mighty Kal-El semen has debunked your claim as Jon Kent is officially canon now 😈

Originally posted by juggerman
And Carver hasn't returned
The worst part is that I've already had to post the exact same material for him at least 5-6 different times now. Somehow he tends to 'forget' that Broly isn't a galaxy-buster in pretty much every Broly-related thread he posts in. Pretty strange, dontyathink...?

herbhappy

Yea. Kinda makes me dislike the character sometimes. Broly fans make him seem like an unstoppable force of nature. Which is not true at all.

Carver is on the danzeshuu forum -_- he goes their for answers from other people.

Are you here to troll Carver or dbz threads in general? Just wondering.

Beyonder is lying by the way. I don't have an acct on whatever forum he is talking about.

Great you're back! Now will you concede Broly isn't a galaxy buster or will you still fight the truth?

Originally posted by bbrem123
Yea. Kinda makes me dislike the character sometimes. Broly fans make him seem like an unstoppable force of nature. Which is not true at all.
Well, HE is kinda an unstoppable force. His defeat in movie 10 involved a wish from a dragon, some help from Trunks' last bit of Ki, and a family Kamehameha.

And in the first movie, he more or less exploded from unable to contain power while also having Gokou need to take the energy from the strongest beings on the planet.

But yea, he's no galaxy buster. Dude can't even take a nice sundip. What a weakling. lol

Originally posted by juggerman
Great you're back! Now will you concede Broly isn't a galaxy buster or will you still fight the truth?

Let me read Galan's post.

Originally posted by juggerman
Great you're back! Now will you concede Broly isn't a galaxy buster or will you still fight the truth?

the answer to this question will determine how much being a hardcore fanboy could cloud his judgement.

Originally posted by Kento
Well, HE is kinda an unstoppable force. His defeat in movie 10 involved a wish from a dragon, some help from Trunks' last bit of Ki, and a family Kamehameha.

And in the first movie, he more or less exploded from unable to contain power while also having Gokou need to take the energy from the strongest beings on the planet.

But yea, he's no galaxy buster. Dude can't even take a nice sundip. What a weakling. lol

I wouldn't call him a weakling because he can't survive in the sun.

The premise I found pretty good about Broly wasn't that he was just powerful, but the fact that he's energy level seemed limitless.

In the first movie, it was showned that Broly had to continuously release his ki since his body couldn't handle.

We know in Dbz, as long as you have Ki, you can still fight. Now imagine Broly with a body that can harness that much energy with no negative feedback.

I actually want for Akira to make Broly canon.

So goku is the superior being? He could hold/control more power than broly at the end of the movie.

I always thought that scene was showing that his power was always growing. Not that he need to release it because he couldnt handle it.