The south galaxy was NOT destroyed. I've debunked this myth a few times in the past, but I guess I'll do so again...
Firstly, how do we explain Movie 8's opening sequence, in which the south galaxy is seemingly destroyed in one fell swoop? Simple: we refer back to Kaioshin's statement immediately following that scene in the original(and most canon) Japanese-dub of the film:
Kaio: "The Southern Galaxy has fallen under Super Saiyan attack!"
Kaio later tells Goku: "First go check the Southern Galaxy..." Which means it was still there for him to 'check'.
Paragus later states: "[Broly] is wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power."
Anyway, while Goku was IT'ing through the south galaxy, we saw him streaking past a multitude of stars:
If stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.
Once Goku arrived on one of the planets in the south galaxy that Broly caused surface-level damage to, not only do we see another intact planet in the background, but we also see multiple stars in the background as well:
If planets and stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.
This is a screen-cap taken just before Comet Camori strikes New Vegeta(which, again, is IN the south galaxy):
Innumerable stars in the background+the planet itself. If planets and stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.
...And this is all secondary to that fact that IF Broly destroyed the south galaxy, he would have had to do so as a RESTRAINED-SSJ(which was the most powerful form he could assume while being mind-controlled by Paragus), because he was NEVER able to access LSSJ until he battled the Z fighters toward the end of the film. This is important because Goku was able to contend equally with restrained-SSJ Broly as a base-level Saiyan--so if restrained-SSJ Broly is a galaxy-buster, then you must be prepared to call base-level Goku a galaxy-buster as well, given that they were equals.
...And considering that even as of BoG, base-level Goku was still sub-Freeza-level, I find it quite laughable to assume that he(and/or those in that tier) was a galactic power... Especially YEARS earlier(during Movie 8/Cell-era), when he would have logically been much weaker.
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Originally posted by Galan007
The south galaxy was NOT destroyed. I've debunked this myth a few times in the past, but I guess I'll do so again...Firstly, how do we explain Movie 8's opening sequence, in which the south galaxy is seemingly destroyed in one fell swoop? Simple: we refer back to Kaioshin's statement immediately following that scene in the original(and most canon) Japanese-dub of the film:
Kaio: [b]"The Southern Galaxy has fallen under Super Saiyan attack!"
Kaio later tells Goku: "First go check the Southern Galaxy..." Which means it was still there for him to 'check'.
Paragus later states: "[Broly] is wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power."
Anyway, while Goku was IT'ing through the south galaxy, we saw him streaking past a multitude of stars:
If stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.
Once Goku arrived on one of the planets in the south galaxy that Broly caused surface-level damage to, not only do we see another intact planet in the background, but we also see multiple stars in the background as well:
If planets and stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.
This is a screen-cap taken just before Comet Camori strikes New Vegeta(which, again, is IN the south galaxy):
Innumerable stars in the background+the planet itself. If planets and stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.
...And this is all secondary to that fact that IF Broly destroyed the south galaxy, he would have had to do so as a RESTRAINED-SSJ(which was the most powerful form he could assume while being mind-controlled by Paragus), because he was NEVER able to access LSSJ until he battled the Z fighters toward the end of the film. This is important because Goku was able to contend equally with restrained-SSJ Broly as a base-level Saiyan--so if restrained-SSJ Broly is a galaxy-buster, then you must be prepared to call base-level Goku a galaxy-buster as well, given that they were equals.
...And considering that even as of BoG, base-level Goku was still sub-Freeza-level, I find it quite laughable to assume that he(and/or those in that tier) was a galactic power... Especially YEARS earlier(during Movie 8/Cell-era), when he would have logically been much weaker.
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Originally posted by Galan007
The south galaxy was NOT destroyed. I've debunked this myth a few times in the past, but I guess I'll do so again...Firstly, how do we explain Movie 8's opening sequence, in which the south galaxy is seemingly destroyed in one fell swoop? Simple: we refer back to Kaioshin's statement immediately following that scene in the original(and most canon) Japanese-dub of the film:
Kaio: [b]"The Southern Galaxy has fallen under Super Saiyan attack!"
Kaio later tells Goku: "First go check the Southern Galaxy..." Which means it was still there for him to 'check'.
Paragus later states: "[Broly] is wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power."
Anyway, while Goku was IT'ing through the south galaxy, we saw him streaking past a multitude of stars:
If stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.
Once Goku arrived on one of the planets in the south galaxy that Broly caused surface-level damage to, not only do we see another intact planet in the background, but we also see multiple stars in the background as well:
If planets and stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.
This is a screen-cap taken just before Comet Camori strikes New Vegeta(which, again, is IN the south galaxy):
Innumerable stars in the background+the planet itself. If planets and stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.
...And this is all secondary to that fact that IF Broly destroyed the south galaxy, he would have had to do so as a RESTRAINED-SSJ(which was the most powerful form he could assume while being mind-controlled by Paragus), because he was NEVER able to access LSSJ until he battled the Z fighters toward the end of the film. This is important because Goku was able to contend equally with restrained-SSJ Broly as a base-level Saiyan--so if restrained-SSJ Broly is a galaxy-buster, then you must be prepared to call base-level Goku a galaxy-buster as well, given that they were equals.
...And considering that even as of BoG, base-level Goku was still sub-Freeza-level, I find it quite laughable to assume that he(and/or those in that tier) was a galactic power... Especially YEARS earlier(during Movie 8/Cell-era), when he would have logically been much weaker.
#Facts [/B]
Originally posted by juggermanThe worst part is that I've already had to post the exact same material for him at least 5-6 different times now. Somehow he tends to 'forget' that Broly isn't a galaxy-buster in pretty much every Broly-related thread he posts in. Pretty strange, dontyathink...?
And Carver hasn't returned
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Originally posted by bbrem123Well, HE is kinda an unstoppable force. His defeat in movie 10 involved a wish from a dragon, some help from Trunks' last bit of Ki, and a family Kamehameha.
Yea. Kinda makes me dislike the character sometimes. Broly fans make him seem like an unstoppable force of nature. Which is not true at all.
And in the first movie, he more or less exploded from unable to contain power while also having Gokou need to take the energy from the strongest beings on the planet.
But yea, he's no galaxy buster. Dude can't even take a nice sundip. What a weakling. lol
Originally posted by Kento
Well, HE is kinda an unstoppable force. His defeat in movie 10 involved a wish from a dragon, some help from Trunks' last bit of Ki, and a family Kamehameha.And in the first movie, he more or less exploded from unable to contain power while also having Gokou need to take the energy from the strongest beings on the planet.
But yea, he's no galaxy buster. Dude can't even take a nice sundip. What a weakling. lol
I wouldn't call him a weakling because he can't survive in the sun.
The premise I found pretty good about Broly wasn't that he was just powerful, but the fact that he's energy level seemed limitless.
In the first movie, it was showned that Broly had to continuously release his ki since his body couldn't handle.
We know in Dbz, as long as you have Ki, you can still fight. Now imagine Broly with a body that can harness that much energy with no negative feedback.
I actually want for Akira to make Broly canon.