Originally posted by TheBadguy
The thing about this match up that's been funny ever since the infamous (and correct) wizard mag is how the superman legion has consistently been proven wrong about their low balling and blatant refusal to acknowledge what toriyama obviously intended. People like endless Mike spread so much propaganda for years that after awhile they convinced most of the Internet it was true. But anybody who is unbiased and a fan of characters all along knew it was bs.They tried to say Dbzers weren't 100tonners
Proven wrong
Tried to say they couldn't blow planets they could only destabilize the core
Proven wrong
Tried to say they weren't fast and none of the blasts were FTL
Proven wrong
Tried to say Cell and the kais were lying about him being at least a solar system buster
Proven wrong.Throughout all these years the low balling and biased interpretations against dbzers kept being proven wrong and that was before toriyama started adding more canon.
Now here we are again and the same strategies are still being employed against dbz. We know how this ends. The anti crowd will be proven wrong again. You can continue to low ball and call everybody in the story liars but in a matter of months we will see bills being a universe buster proven and Goku will be well past him. The writing was on the wall when they had broly and buu busting galaxies and they are insignificant to bills and current Goku.
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Originally posted by TheBadguy
there were 4 quadrants each quadrant had at least 4 galaxies in it. brolly blew one quadrant which would be at least 4 galaxies. buu did similar. you can bicker over technicalities all day but these things werent ass pulls, toriyama never stated any dissatisfaction about them happening and he created Broly, he approved toei's decisions in regards to movies. in other words these things are obviously in line with his take on the characters which is why solar system busting and sun busting should have never been so controversial for as long as they were. logically with these extreme jumps in these characters strength since then the next thing is universes. it will not be long before we see definitive proof we are dealing with universe busters and then they'll be the next batch of semantics and excuses.
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They tried to say Dbzers weren't 100tonners
Proven wrong
1. Goku still hasn't lifted over 40 tons....
Tried to say they couldn't blow planets they could only destabilize the core
Proven wrong
2. Buu/Frieza/Goku bluff debunks this.
Tried to say they weren't fast and none of the blasts were FTL
Proven wrong
3. Hahaha xD
Tried to say Cell and the kais were lying about him being at least a solar system buster
Proven wrong.
4. Lmao nothing SS or near lol if he was he should have won.
Originally posted by carver9
I don't know which post Juggerman is talking about.
Yes you do Carver but since you want to be childish I'll come back to it for you.
You stated Broly was a galaxy buster and I fought with you about it tooth and nail until told your daddy on you and you stopped posting. I can quote the entire thing from you if need be 😛
You said you'd look over galan's post and give your input. You never did. So either you know you are wrong and refused to admit it by juts ghosting or you are so dense that you still think you are correct but still can't mount a proper defense.
I'll even do you a solid and link the post just in case you were feeling froggy:
Originally posted by Galan007
The south galaxy was NOT destroyed. I've debunked this myth a few times in the past, but I guess I'll do so again...Firstly, how do we explain Movie 8's opening sequence, in which the south galaxy is seemingly destroyed in one fell swoop? Simple: we refer back to Kaioshin's statement immediately following that scene in the original(and most canon) Japanese-dub of the film:
Kaio: [b]"The Southern Galaxy has fallen under Super Saiyan attack!"
Kaio later tells Goku: "First go check the Southern Galaxy..." Which means it was still there for him to 'check'.
Paragus later states: "[Broly] is wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power."
Anyway, while Goku was IT'ing through the south galaxy, we saw him streaking past a multitude of stars:
If stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.
Once Goku arrived on one of the planets in the south galaxy that Broly caused surface-level damage to, not only do we see another intact planet in the background, but we also see multiple stars in the background as well:
If planets and stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.
This is a screen-cap taken just before Comet Camori strikes New Vegeta(which, again, is IN the south galaxy):
Innumerable stars in the background+the planet itself. If planets and stars were left intact, the galaxy was not destroyed.
...And this is all secondary to that fact that IF Broly destroyed the south galaxy, he would have had to do so as a RESTRAINED-SSJ(which was the most powerful form he could assume while being mind-controlled by Paragus), because he was NEVER able to access LSSJ until he battled the Z fighters toward the end of the film. This is important because Goku was able to contend equally with restrained-SSJ Broly as a base-level Saiyan--so if restrained-SSJ Broly is a galaxy-buster, then you must be prepared to call base-level Goku a galaxy-buster as well, given that they were equals.
...And considering that even as of BoG, base-level Goku was still sub-Freeza-level, I find it quite laughable to assume that he(and/or those in that tier) was a galactic power... Especially YEARS earlier(during Movie 8/Cell-era), when he would have logically been much weaker.
#Facts [/B]
Well yeah, that's why they killed Goku in the Death Battle--they didn't want to reopen the can of worms ever again.
Regardless, a high-end Superman could likely still tank SSJG Goku's blows. Remember, Goku's strikes didn't even discharge planet/moon-busting energies at their epicenter--the shockwaves only became universal as they spread further outward... I'm guessing Toriyama was thinking of how a tsunami is formed when he introduced that ridiculous 'concept'. 😘
