Goku vs Superman Death Battle-Discuss

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
When it comes to fighting, Goku is actually really smart. He's always been praised for that. He just sucks in all other areas, that are irrelevant for combat purposes in this particular case. Unless you give prep time to both characters.

Combat speed... c'mon. DBZ characters use theirs to the fullest all the time, Superman does not. Travelling speed (excluding Goku's IT technique) is where he got Goku's beat and that's it.

There is no such thing as true invulnerability in comics. It's really just super-durability. Goku's tanked condensed ki attacks far superior to that of Roshi's moon-busting kamehameha wave even before he became a SSJ1-grade-one.

Strength goes to Superman, hundreds of feats don't lie. Then again, if kid Goku during King Piccolo saga wasn't far inferior to Arale... 😖hifty:

I would give Goku the edge in punching power.

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
>Never posted my quested scans
>Denied the 1v1
>Hasnt won against me'

Yeah ok kid...whatever floats your false statements because debating with you is below Carver9 tier.

ooh nice deflection from my post

Originally posted by yungz22
oh yea and btw if we use this made up average showings rule which basically means ignore everything you dont like.

then that universe busting feat yall like to talk about is moot because goku never busted a planet let alone a universe and thats on average lol

Us: *Posts multiple different pictures from different versions and different stories.*

Dbztards: Doesnt prove anything.

Us: K....show us Goku planet busting on panel....

4 Known excuses from ztards.....

Dbztards: lel why would he blow up a planet? he is a good guy.

Dbztards: He beat frieza so abc logic tells us he can (because he never planet busted lol!!)

Dbztards: Well the living tribunal never planet busted so why should he even be compared to dbz characters? i mean logic serves he isnt planet level.

Dbztards: Goku never planet busted so "We" have to use calculations to help us know.

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i wish yall had better arguements then you guys have been presenting

Originally posted by bbrem123
How in gods name are these statements false haha. You have to prove them to be false.

No Powerscaling BS
No Calculation excuses.

i will wait if you

1. Refuse
Its concession accepted......

2. Ignore
Its concession accepted.....

3. Make a excuse not to post
Its concession accepted.....\

You got 2 mins.

http://www.debate.org/forums/Education/topic/2004/ for those that dont understand the concept

No scans?......conceding accepted.

Originally posted by yungz22
oh yea and btw if we use this made up average showings rule which basically means ignore everything you dont like.

then that universe busting feat yall like to talk about is moot because goku never busted a planet let alone a universe and thats on average lol

None of the people you've named debate primarily off of high showings. Anyways, Thor can lay down on his back and allow Superman, Hulk, Juggernaut, Thanos, and Odin to pound on him without a scratch since we only accept high showings.

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Stats/ThorDurability20-300.jpg.html

Thor withstand attacks from an angry Celestial. High fts for the win unless you think the people I've named is as powerful or more powerful than a Celestial.

Originally posted by yungz22
ooh nice deflection from my post

You have deflected everything I have said by saying "they didn't do it, so they can't durrrr". Even though a shockwave was seen vaporizing planets and even affecting things out side the universe. You have to prove the statements from the elder kai/whis/beerus/the on screen showing of the shockwave and what it affected are false. Which you cant. The Kai's are constantly shown in this fight to relay to us what the affects of this clash will do. They have been around for millions of years and know what Beerus's power is capable of. But hey they must all be lying....

Hell they even explain that Goku nulified the final blow to stop the destruction. You just dislike it so you dont want it to be true. You and BeyonderGod and go live in you own litttle world. Im starting to think neither of you have even watch the show.

Originally posted by carver9
None of the people you've named debate primarily off of high showings. Anyways, Thor can lay down on his back and allow Superman, Hulk, Juggernaut, Thanos, and Odin to pound on him without a scratch since we only accept high showings.

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Stats/ThorDurability20-300.jpg.html

Thor withstand attacks from an angry Celestial. High fts for the win unless you think the people I've named is as powerful or more powerful than a Celestial.

i never said to accept only high showings but only accepting averages is stupid.

whats wrong with making both characters fightbto their up most potential based on what they have shown.

your just trying to nerf supes and its obvious

Originally posted by yungz22
i never said to accept only high showings but only accepting averages is stupid.

whats wrong with making both characters fightbto their up most potential based on what they have shown.

your just trying to nerf supes and its obvious

We accept ALL showings, not just highs. This doesn't have a thing to do with Superman at this point. Example. Surfer has swam in Black Holes. Are we going to assume that it takes Black Hole amount of power to stop him? If that's the case; here we have Thanos beating Surfer to death. He kills him. Surfer has survived exploding exploding planets, swam in stars, dipped in Black Holes. What do we do with this showing? Do we give this ft to Thanos or do we throw it out since it doesn't go along with Surfer other showings?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/6/67877/2255508-c.p.u._1___0024.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/6/67877/2255509-c.p.u._1___0025.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/6/67877/2255511-c.p.u._1___0026.jpg

What do we do yungz? Throw this showing out or accept it? Do you think Thanos was producing black hole punches against Surfer? If so, provide proof. We don't ignore Surfer showings and cling to highs. We accept every showing there is. The only showing we would exclude is the lows since we know that their average is above that.

Marvel=/=DC feats.....

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Dbztards: Show us superman planet busting! because goku sure can!

Us: *Posts multiple different pictures from different versions and different stories.*

Dbztards: Doesnt prove anything.

Us: K....show us Goku planet busting on panel....

4 Known excuses from ztards.....

Dbztards: lel why would he blow up a planet? he is a good guy.

Dbztards: He beat frieza so abc logic tells us he can (because he never planet busted lol!!)

Dbztards: Well the living tribunal never planet busted so why should he even be compared to dbz characters? i mean logic serves he isnt planet level.

Dbztards: Goku never planet busted so "We" have to use calculations to help us know.

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Everyone report this post and guy and lets get him out of here. Bada said next time he was done.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Everyone report this post and guy and lets get him out of here. Bada said next time he was done.

He thinks Goku power doesn't even warrant him the potential to bust a building since Goku has never done that on panel. He even admitted Roshi can generate far more power than Goku.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Everyone report this post and guy and lets get him out of here. Bada said next time he was done.

Yet im using examples lol i should report you for reporting me on false grounds and plus you are purposely trying to ban me because you cant "Beat" me.

Originally posted by carver9
He thinks Goku power doesn't even warrant him the potential to bust a building since Goku has never done that on panel. He even admitted Roshi can generate far more power than Goku.

also never stated anything about building lol i can admit a feat when I SEE it not when someone tells me something that is a lie

aka powerscaling
aka calculations

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Yet im using examples lol i should report you for reporting me on false grounds and plus you are purposely trying to ban me because you cant "Beat" me.

You're a troll. Why not report you?

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Roshi+Piccolo

also never stated anything about building lol i can admit a feat when I SEE it not when someone tells me something that is a lie

aka powerscaling
aka calculations

So Roshi and Piccolo at a power level of 350 is more powerful than Super Saiyan 3 Goku?

Originally posted by carver9
So Roshi and Piccolo at a power level of 350 is more powerful than Super Saiyan 3 Goku?