Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
^😆Tbh I hate Superman more than Quan and Carver together do, I just fight for his cause to make people hate him as much as I do. The more I defend him and say how above everyone he is the more people start to despise him. evillaugh
Makes sense. Now I finally understand why you're supporting him 😛
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Are we all in agreement, Beyonder is on ignore?
I've put only one person on ignore. SasuOna.
Beyonder at least makes me laugh 😂 His trolling in this thread exceeded any expectations though, so I might be adding him to the list. We'll see.
Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Galan > YouI lost track of how many times he has debunked you now....like the 46th?
Be quiet. Galan isn't always right. He voted for Superman way before all of this went down. It's obvious Akira didn't want the Earth to be destroyed which is the reason the shockwaves didn't annihilate it during their first clash. It's called plot. If their last clash was successful, everything, including Earth would've been whipped out. EVERYTHING. That's called universal strength. Galan can believe what he wants, doesn't mean I have to agree with it.
Originally posted by carver9Because the shockwaves inextricably gained power the farther outward they spread. Liken it to the mechanics of a tsunami, if that makes it easier for you to grasp.
Galan post doesn't make any sense by the way. How can below planetary punches almost destroy a Universe. Lol.
However, at their epicenter/point of origin(which is where Superman would obviously be) Goku and Beerus' blows were infinitely less devastating. Lol.
Planetary or moon busting is laughable since we seen the devastation of their blows. Again, no matter how you put it, their blows were Universal. Their clash was about to destroy the Universe. The center of the blow would be more devastating if that's where the root cause of the destruction originated from. Earth not being destroyed was the plot.
Again, the shockwaves became more devastating the farther outward they spread. That's why the Earth/moon were not harmed, while planets much farther away were atomized. The damage became progressively worse as it moved away from its point of origin. Don't believe me? Rewatch the episode. 🙂
Stop ignoring the particulars behind the feat, and get off Goku's bone for a sec. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
Again, the shockwaves became more devastating the farther outward they spread. That's why the Earth/moon were not harmed, while planets much farther away were atomized. The damage became progressively worse as it moved away from its point of origin. Don't believe me? Rewatch the episode. 🙂Stop ignoring the particulars behind the feat, and get off Goku's bone for a sec. 👆
He is permanently attached to Goku's bone.
Originally posted by Galan007
Again, the shockwaves became more devastating the farther outward they spread. That's why the Earth/moon were not harmed, while planets much farther away were atomized. The damage became progressively worse as it moved away from its point of origin. Don't believe me? Rewatch the episode. 🙂Stop ignoring the particulars behind the feat, and get off Goku's bone for a sec. 👆
The point of the feat is that the energy was universal. If the last clash would have connected, the universe, including Earth, would have been destroyed.
The fact that the force was redirected, because the two were compressing their energy, means only that they can also boast universal energy control.
Yes, Carver is a bit on Goku's bone right now, but at least he's not completely misinterpreting the feat in Goku's favor, which is what you're doing for Superman. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
Because the shockwaves inextricably gained power the farther outward they spread. Liken it to the mechanics of a tsunami, if that makes it easier for you to grasp.However, at their epicenter/point of origin(which is where Superman would obviously be) Goku and Beerus' blows were infinitely less devastating. Lol.
The energy caused by the impact of Beerus and Goku attack was Universal/multiversal. Everything would've been destroyed if they kept pounding at each other. The Kai's even state that Goku and Beerus isn't throwing Universal clashes anymore. The center would be the most impactful since it is Goku and Bill that is causing the devastation. The shockwaves is the deciding factor which was capable of destroying everything. Nothing short of UNIVERSAL power can accomplish this which is what Goku and Beerus was doing.
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Originally posted by SSJGGogetaI know the feat ended up causing universal devastation. I have stated that repeatedly.
The point of the feat is that the energy was universal. If the last clash would have connected, the universe, including Earth, would have been destroyed.The fact that the force was redirected, because the two were compressing their energy, means only that they can also boast universal energy control.
Yes, Carver is a bit on Goku's bone right now, but at least he's not completely misinterpreting the feat in Goku's favor, which is what you're doing for Superman. 👆
The concept that you people don't seem to grasp is that the shockwaves only became universal as they spread further outward from their point of origin. However, at their epicenter(which is where Superman would obviously be), the shockwaves barely let out enough force to bring the people of earth to their knees--let alone destroy the Earth/moon. It is not high-balling Superman to assume he could endure said blows, given his extensive history of damage-soak.
Now, had the shockwaves started out at planet-atomizing-levels, then Supes would be f*cked... But they didn't... So he probably wouldn't. 🙂
But again: I'm not saying that Superman still wins. I just think the context behind Goku/Beerus' universal feat needs to be considered a bit more thoroughly than it has been. 🙂
Even so. How powerful of a punch would it take to cause that kind of shockwave? Nothing like this have ever been seen before. I fact that the clashes caused a shockwave of that caliber shows how much force must of been presents at the impact.
Also how would the 3rd strike have destroyed the universe completely? It would obviously be due to the shockwave.
You also have to remember that they were not even at full power when all of this happened.
Except we know the shockwaves WEREN'T nearly as powerful at their epicenter, because the Earth/moon were left perfectly intact, while far-off planets were atomized. It was also explicitly stated that the shockwaves became more powerful/destructive the farther outward they spread. Liken it to the mechanics of a tsunami.
If it's still too hard to grasp, maybe this diagram of the shockwave radius will help:
...Goku/Beerus were obviously right in the center.
Originally posted by Galan007
I know the feat ended up causing universal devastation. I have stated that repeatedly.The concept that you people don't seem to grasp is that the shockwaves only became universal as they spread further outward from their point of origin. However, at their epicenter(which is where Superman would obviously be), the shockwaves barely let out enough force to bring the people of earth to their knees--let alone destroy the Earth/moon. It is not high-balling Superman to assume he could endure said blows, given his extensive history of damage-soak.
Now, had the shockwaves started out at planet-atomizing-levels, then Supes would be f*cked... But they didn't... So he probably wouldn't. 🙂
But again: I'm not saying that Superman still wins. I just think the context behind Goku/Beerus' universal feat needs to be considered a bit more thoroughly than it has been. 🙂
thank you galan eloquently spoken