This really isn't all that much of a debate anymore, if Goku could give Superman a fight back in his SSJ3 days, and he's what, at least 35 times stronger now? Unless people think Superman was around 40 times more formidable than him back in DBZ. I know the numbers are stupid but that's the level of power DBS is dealing with.
Originally posted by Damborgson
This really isn't all that much of a debate anymore, if Goku could give Superman a fight back in his SSJ3 days, and he's what, at least 35 times stronger now? Unless people think Superman was around 40 times more formidable than him back in DBZ. I know the numbers are stupid but that's the level of power DBS is dealing with.
Acting as if Superman has never went beyond his base levels before.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Also, are you serious?Goku and Beerus literally threatened the universe during their fight (at worst this is a high end multi-galactic feat, if this would have included destroying time and space, it was truly universal). We see planets and stars be destroyed as side effects. Champa literally destroyed a planet with a normal kick. Beerus can cross thousands of lightyears in two minutes.
You seem to be running on outdated information. Goku in his base form would easily defeat Superman now. The only Superman I am personally familiar with that could defeat him is Cosmic Armour Superman, and that's not even near standard equipment.
And Worldbreaker Hulk destroyed a universe.
Are you really Carver under a sock? 😛
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Funny how "much" people who don't even read Superman comics "think" they know about him. Superman in IC was already beyond SSJ4 Goku, in FC and OWAW he went beyond anything we have seen in DB till now.
Of the many bothersome things in this post I think the worst is the random quotations on 'much' and 'think'...wtf
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Funny how "much" people who don't even read Superman comics "think" they know about him. Superman in IC was already beyond SSJ4 Goku, in FC and OWAW he went beyond anything we have seen in DB till now.