Beerus durability vs Cell attack

Started by juggerman5 pages

Originally posted by carver9
Who has Thor or Superman fought evenly with that can or has shed planets with their fist? If we are going to assume that are equal to beings that can wreck planets just by punching them (which is a rare occasion, extremely rare occasion in comics), then we need to see said character that either of these two fought achieving something like this. Who is this planet puncher you're talking about? Also, New 52 Supes said he can not destroy a planet.

No: my question doesn't have anything to do with Goku or anyone in DBZ. I just want to know if you would be impressed with Hulk punching a hole in Odin and if so, why would you be impressed.

Didn't Hulk punch thru a meteor twice the size of Earth or some such? Hulk and Thor are strength peers with Hulk edging him due to his rage boosts. And that was a weaker Hulk iirc. Can you name me one DBZ punching feat that was on that level? Or a lifting feat like the Superman bench press or even moving the moon with help?

I would be impressed because Odin is on a whole other level than Hulk. He's much much more powerful so Hulk doing something like that would be nuts imo

Originally posted by juggerman
Didn't Hulk punch thru a meteor twice the size of Earth or some such? Hulk and Thor are strength peers with Hulk edging him due to his rage boosts. And that was a weaker Hulk iirc. Can you name me one DBZ punching feat that was on that level? Or a lifting feat like the Superman bench press or even moving the moon with help?

I would be impressed because Odin is on a whole other level than Hulk. He's much much more powerful so Hulk doing something like that would be nuts imo

Yes, Hulk punched through a meteor twice the size of Earth. Have a question for anyone here. I know in the Anime Goku and Cell was shaking Earth during their fist cuff. Did that happen in the Manga as well? The thing is though, I know DBZ characters can drop top tiers with hits just like I know beings from Invincible can as well (even though they don't come close to having strength fts like Hulk and Superman). Lifting fts isn't the end all be all of fts. There are people without those type of fts that I feel could stomp Superman and Hulk to the ground.

An example of this is Starbreaker vs Superman. He doesn't have a single ft under his name that is on Superman's level, but, he tanks Superman punches like nothing.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/148326/4030781-3013889719-39814.jpg

This goes for people like the General, Despero, Grundy, etc...they don't share or come close to having strength fts on people like Hulk's level but at the end of the day, they can give him a fight. If you look at DBZ punching power, that gives us a good indication that they can hurt Supes with their hits.

What durability fts does Odin have that makes it impressive for Hulk to punch a hole in him?

Also, what about Superman? What planet crusher has Superman fought evenly with physically that makes you think Supes can crush a planet?

Hulk and your Superman fanboy crush isnt in this thread, get off it.

I didn't start that but overall, I agree with you. Let's not bring up Hulk and Supes in this debate Juggy. It isn't needed.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes, Hulk punched through a meteor twice the size of Earth. Have a question for anyone here. I know in the Anime Goku and Cell was shaking Earth during their fist cuff. Did that happen in the Manga as well? The thing is though, I know DBZ characters can drop top tiers with hits just like I know beings from Invincible can as well (even though they don't come close to having strength fts like Hulk and Superman). Lifting fts isn't the end all be all of fts. There are people without those type of fts that I feel could stomp Superman and Hulk to the ground.

An example of this is Starbreaker vs Superman. He doesn't have a single ft under his name that is on Superman's level, but, he tanks Superman punches like nothing.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/148326/4030781-3013889719-39814.jpg

This goes for people like the General, Despero, Grundy, etc...they don't share or come close to having strength fts on people like Hulk's level but at the end of the day, they can give him a fight. If you look at DBZ punching power, that gives us a good indication that they can hurt Supes with their hits.

What durability fts does Odin have that makes it impressive for Hulk to punch a hole in him?

Also, what about Superman? What planet crusher has Superman fought evenly with physically that makes you think Supes can crush a planet?

You keep asking me questions but you don't answer mine. What feats does Goku have with just physical strength. Not just Goku, but anyone in DB. The best feats that I recall are punching thru King Kai's planet by SSJ3 Goku and tossing the pillar by Tao. Both of which can be done by Supes in his sleep. If you don't have the feats you have to concede the point.

Originally posted by carver9
I didn't start that but overall, I agree with you. Let's not bring up Hulk and Supes in this debate Juggy. It isn't needed.

YOU keep bringing up other characters in this. You brought up Lizard and Colossus and Superman and Thor and Surfer and Odin and Juggernaut. I think it was me that mentioned Hulk first but that was in response to you using Marvel and DC as your example. If you would like to stick with DB I'm good with that. 👆

Originally posted by juggerman
You keep asking me questions but you don't answer mine. What feats does Goku have with just physical strength. Not just Goku, but anyone in DB. The best feats that I recall are punching thru King Kai's planet by SSJ3 Goku and tossing the pillar by Tao. Both of which can be done by Supes in his sleep. If you don't have the feats you have to concede the point.

YOU keep bringing up other characters in this. You brought up Lizard and Colossus and Superman and Thor and Surfer and Odin and Juggernaut. I think it was me that mentioned Hulk first but that was in response to you using Marvel and DC as your example. If you would like to stick with DB I'm good with that. 👆

Concede what point?

Goku was a 100 tonner as a kid. Don't think kid Goku could put a scratch on his older self. His strength did nothing but increase at that point. Overall he doesn't have lifting fts but it's obvious he can clean Superman clock based off the power gap of his previous showings.

Originally posted by carver9
Concede what point?

Goku was a 100 tonner as a kid. Don't think kid Goku could put a scratch on his older self. His strength did nothing but increase at that point. Overall he doesn't have lifting fts but it's obvious he can clean Superman clock based off the power gap of his previous showings.

Thought we were leaving Superman out of this?

Originally posted by carver9
Yep...I know what Odin and Superman has done. I asked him the Odin question for a reason want to see what he will say.

I believe Superman can destroy a planet. I believe Thor can destroy one as well. What I am explaining to him is that he is basing things primarily off of fts and neither Thor nor Superman has destroyed planets. He cant give fts to one and not share to the others. Get what I'm saying?

That's pre crisis Superman who sneezed away Galaxies. Superman isn't close to that power anymore. Every ft you named was Pre Crisis. He isn't a valid Superman anymore.

not all the feats he named are pre crisis

Originally posted by juggerman
Thought we were leaving Superman out of this?

My bad. Well, the topic is pointless then since our debate was entirely on Goku strength vs top tiers.

Originally posted by carver9
My bad. Well, the topic is pointless then since our debate was entirely on Goku strength vs top tiers.

You're thread didn't even include Goku in the OP. Was this just a thread to make a point for Goku vs Superman???????? 😗

Originally posted by juggerman
You're thread didn't even include Goku in the OP. Was this just a thread to make a point for Goku vs Superman???????? 😗

Of coarse it was.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Of coarse it was.

I know I just want him to say it

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/AngstromZero/media-full//superman_vs_goku.jpg.html

It had nothing to do with Superman though. I wanted to know what people thought of this scenario. I have been talking about Cell destructive power since Galan posted that scan.

That battle is trash

Originally posted by juggerman
That battle is trash

That battle is legit.

Death Battle is legit. Twice

Originally posted by juggerman
Death Battle is legit. Twice

1 Goku vs 5 Supermen 👆 yep, that's legit. Why are we talking about this? So, the moral is, Beerus can withstand everything Cell throws at him. Thanks for replying everyone.

Originally posted by carver9
1 Goku vs 5 Supermen 👆 yep, that's legit. Why are we talking about this? So, the moral is, Beerus can withstand everything Cell throws at him. Thanks for replying everyone.

Bit of an exaggeration. Seems like this really got under your skin man. Be cool 😮‍💨

Originally posted by juggerman
Bit of an exaggeration. Seems like this really got under your skin man. Be cool 😮‍💨

Lol...I'm straight. I like screw attack. I just think they dislike Anime characters. They never win.

Originally posted by carver9
. They never win.

Just like you, no wonder 🙄