Captain America vs Superman

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Evidently serious Kryptonians are even faster than the ring's shields.

And it has EVERYTHING to do with reaction times.

Being ready and actually doing anything about it are two different things. You can tell me to prep myself to catch a bullet - but being ready doesn't actually mean I can catch it.

LOL, okay. But it ain't PIS, right? 🙄 So why don't villains with super speed do this all the time? An auto shield should be instantaneous or else it would be useless. Maybe GLs are useless in your book.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
He didn't take out King Thor, King Thor blew his skin off his bones with a blast, no PIS involved. I was illustrating his fighting prowess against a near skyfather level opponent.

And will you stop talking about reactions with the GLs losing their rings? They lost them due to PIS: Plot Induced Stupidity. Why the hell would they allow that to happen? If is was this easy, the GLs would be completely worthless against heralds.

They've been shown to be kinda useless against Kryptonians (see my scans and Abhi's).

White Martians have also blitzed GLs.

Zoom taunted GL and escaped.

So...desiring something and actually doing it are two different things.

You could stand in front of me, with a machine gun (let's say it's accurate, lol). And tell me to prepare myself. I sure as hell don't WANT to be shot - but I'm not suddenly going to become Neo and dodge them.

Sure, Cap could dance through those bullets. But Superman is far faster than bullets.

Jesus christ the arguments in this thread

DS has a fetish with owning people online and a lot of patience

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
LOL, okay. But it ain't PIS, right? 🙄 So why don't villains with super speed do this all the time? An auto shield should be instantaneous or else it would be useless. Maybe GLs are useless in your book.

Hal Jordan and Zoom (Hal even had him caught)
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/8/80103/4206516-3717931671-29852.jpg

White Martians and Kyle. Broke his arm like a twig:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220544/4448751-2648944-2.png

But, we can go the other way. I am open to being convinced. Have you any feats from Lanterns fighting speedsters, and not losing? I guess realistically we should just use John's feats, but really we can open it up to ALL Lanterns (who don't have superspeed, of course).

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute. So since I disagree with Darksaint post, that means I hate Superman?

😕 I am so confused.

It is a ridiculuos argument, and you TRY to nitpick the argument. TRY because it wasn't successful.

By this time you should know DS already has your number dude. How many times have you beat him in a debate?

He always picks you appart.

You should know when it's time to quit. Debating with DS is not a good thing for you.

I mean you are welcome to keep trying, but I think the results are going to be the same 99% of the time.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
It is a ridiculuos argument, and you TRY to nitpick the argument. TRY because it wasn't successful.

By this time you should know DS already has your number dude. How many times have you beat him in a debate?

He always picks you appart.

You should know when it's time to quit. Debating with DS is not a good thing for you.

I mean you are welcome to keep trying, but I think the results are going to be the same 99% of the time.

Dude shut off your hot air valve. DS has never once beaten me in a debate and neither have you. Unlike him, you don't even attempt to debate, you just troll around the room like you are doing now. You haven't raised one relevant point but you wanna talk shit about mine? You are a clown, nothing more.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Dude shut off your hot air valve. DS has never once beaten me in a debate and neither have you. Unlike him, you don't even attempt to debate, you just troll around the room like you are doing now. You haven't raised one relevant point but you wanna talk shit about mine? You are a clown, nothing more.

I was talking to Carver, but since you can't read or understand.

You, I don't consider a debater you are just canon fodder to laugh at. BTW was Superman body like a reactor? 😂

You don't even read comics! Your arguments are based on ignorance and whisful thinking.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hal Jordan and Zoom (Hal even had him caught)
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/8/80103/4206516-3717931671-29852.jpg

White Martians and Kyle. Broke his arm like a twig:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220544/4448751-2648944-2.png

But, we can go the other way. I am open to being convinced. Have you any feats from Lanterns fighting speedsters, and not losing? I guess realistically we should just use John's feats, but really we can open it up to ALL Lanterns (who don't have superspeed, of course).

I'm not following you. What is the point in that first scan? That fight is inconclusive, but more importantly, I never made the claim that GL's > speedsters nor did I ever mention speedsters. Define your point and I'll respond to it.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I was talking to Carver, but since you can't read or understand.

You, I don't consider a debater you are just canon fodder to laugh at. BTW was Superman body like a reactor? 😂

You don't even read comics! Your arguments are based on ignorance and whisful thinking.

I read tons of Marvel comics and I've been collecting for nearly three decades, so WTF are you talking about? You are really, really good at being a troll king, even better since Bada told you to chill out. Now go sit in the corner while grown folk talk.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I'm not following you. What is the point in that first scan? That fight is inconclusive, but more importantly, I never made the claim that GL's > speedsters nor did I ever mention speedsters. Define your point and I'll respond to it.

So Hal allowed him to get away?

I guess I should've posted the scans after.

Superman is a speedster. My point is, he's fast enough to tangle with the Flash. Cap, whilst possessing meta level speed on occasion, cannot. As he lacks the reactions.

But as I've said before, am happy to change my mind. Any proof that Cap would be able to react to Superman?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Jesus christ the arguments in this thread

DS has a fetish with owning people online and a lot of patience

😘. Glad you've found meaning through him.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I read tons of Marvel comics and I've been collecting for nearly three decades, so WTF are you talking about? You are really, really good at being a troll king, even better since Bada told you to chill out. Now go sit in the corner while grown folk talk.

might not be a good idea to backseat mod, especially with how Bada sees you...

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This thread isn't gonna last long anyway.

Oh now you "read" comics?

By reading you mean looking at the pretty pictures?

Can't believe you were not able to understand that my message was for Carv and you can't even follow DS argument, honest question (no offense) is your intelligence below average? Or is it something else?

BTW Superman wins and if he decides to get the ring off CA there is nothing CA can do

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So Hal allowed him to get away?

I guess I should've posted the scans after.

Superman is a speedster. My point is, he's fast enough to tangle with the Flash. Cap, whilst possessing meta level speed on occasion, cannot. As he lacks the reactions.

But as I've said before, am happy to change my mind. Any proof that Cap would be able to react to Superman?

You persist in posing an enigmatic question which I replied to several times in the thread. Ask me legitimate question if you like.

Originally posted by -Pr-
might not be a good idea to backseat mod, especially with how Bada sees you...

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This thread isn't gonna last long anyway.

You are catching this and that's all you have to say? So I have to listen to this clown tell me that I don't read comics when I'm literary at the comic book store right now reading Civil War III?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You are catching this and that's all you have to say? So I have to listen to this clown tell me that I don't read comics when I'm literary at the comic book store right now reading Civil War III?

People say stuff like that all the time about other people. Just ignore it. They do not know if you read comics or not.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You persist in posing an enigmatic question which I replied to several times in the thread. Ask me legitimate question if you like.

If you can't answer, that's ok.

Do you have proof that Cap can react to Superman's speed? Or that GL autoshields can hold up?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You are catching this and that's all you have to say? So I have to listen to this clown tell me that I don't read comics when I'm literary at the comic book store right now reading Civil War III?

So you lied before? You said you don't read comics and I can look for your post. You also said that you won't read comics and that we were a bunch of super retard brainwashed kal kultist.

Anyway. It does not matter

Your argument is wrong and you haven't shown anything that suggest that CA will be able to react to Superman. Much less win

Originally posted by carver9
People say stuff like that all the time about other people. Just ignore it. They do not know if you read comics or not.

Stupid accusations like that don't bother me in the least. What does bother me at times is what things get noticed and what things get ignored.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
So you lied before? You said you don't read comics and I can look for your post. You also said that you won't read comics and that we were a bunch of super retard brainwashed kal kultist.

Anyway. It does not matter

Your argument is wrong and you haven't shown anything that suggest that CA will be able to react to Superman. Much less win

Go for then. Find a post that does not exist. Show me a post saying I don't read comics. I'll wait for you to look and feel stupid.