General Primary Discussion Thread

I hear Bernie won Wisconsin and has won the last 6 caucasians. Good for him.

Hilary has had enough of Sanders😂😂

Listen to Off Message here.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/hillary-clinton-has-had-enough-of-bernie-sanders-221495

I know about that because I was there. I live in syracuse, so I attended the event at the regional market. Honestly, in person, Hillary seems like a complete shill. The epitome of voter pandering. My mom attended with me and although we were in the disabled section, Hillary focused solely on the SU college students for their votes. She was clearly more concerned with the votes more than the issues of her constituents.

That being stated, we discussed it afterwards, and mom still supports her over Bernie. Her argument is that Hillary is an obvious shill, but pragmatic enough to get stuff done, whereas she views Bernie's idealism as weak and believes he isn't as tough as Hillary and will obstructed worse than Obama. Also, she believes Bernie can not beat Trump. So my mom HATES Hillary, but she viewed her as the best option available.

Also, as far as Hillary's Wall Street money goes, my parents view it as an unpleasant but necessary funding source of the DNC and that the Democrats establishment love her do much because she is a huge source of funding, and that Bernie can't complain because some of the money she's raised went to this political efforts as it has to the other establishment Democrats.

That being stated, my mom said she won't make her final decision until primary voting day. Personally, I am also on the fence. Trump looks like he's done, so Cruz will probably be the nominee, it which case I wont feel such an urgency to rush for Hillary, because Sanders could crush Cruz just as well as her. So I'm still undecided

I remember hearing on the radio that the supreme court or whatever has made a ruling that essentially boils down to..when it comes to deciding the numbers of a legislative district or something..they are now including illegals in the equation, instead of only legal citizens who can vote.

I'm curious if people think the two term limit for presidents could potentially have negative effects on the country? I began thinking about this when watching a documentary about Richard Nixon. It was talking about how he was trying to engage in peace talks about Vietnam with the North Vietnamese. For a long time they were not willing to budge on certain issues, however as the 1972 presidential election came closer they suddenly began to be more willing to compromise.

Some experts were saying this is because they believed that Nixon was going to win the 1972 election and thus that he would be willing to take certain actions that he wouldn't of done during his first term because he was worried about getting re-elected. So the argument was that once that worry was lifted it would "free" him up to try to do more of the things he wanted to do.

Anyways, this just got me to thinking about the last few presidents we've had and wondering if maybe some of them have somewhat "held back" so to speak during their 1st terms in order to ensure they could win a second term. Since if this was done it would potentially mean that attempts to solve important issues might be postponed in order to ensure victory in the next election.

So what about this fact: Americans will spend more on taxes this year then they will on food, clothing, and shelter combined.

Originally posted by Surtur
So what about this fact: Americans will spend more on taxes this year then they will on food, clothing, and shelter combined.

It would be interesting to see how that changes based on income bracket. I mean there's only so much food, clothes and houses Bill Gates can buy, really...

The report was about Americans as a whole, but yes it's likely that most of the people who fall into the "spending more on taxes then on food, clothing, and shelter combined" are middle class or lower.

Originally posted by Surtur
The report was about Americans as a whole, but yes it's likely that most of the people who fall into the "spending more on taxes then on food, clothing, and shelter combined" are middle class or lower.

Actually I assume the opposite.

Yeah that might be true, though I find this fact disturbing either way.

We need to make sure that the people donating money to these politicians do not have their own problems focused on more then other important issues. If you get a lot of money from rich d-bags then it might cause one to want to focus on the problems effecting rich d-bags.

I think donating to Bernie sanders is disgusting.

There's a reason corporations don't like him.

Bernie needs money. But rich d-bags like the Clinton's aren't really hurting for cash. Hell Hilary gets paid a massive amount of money just to give friggin speeches.

Which of course is another advantage the rich have over those who aren't wealthy when it comes to running for any kind of political position.

Originally posted by Surtur
Bernie needs money. But rich d-bags like the Clinton's aren't really hurting for cash. Hell Hilary gets paid a massive amount of money just to give friggin speeches.

Which of course is another advantage the rich have over those who aren't wealthy when it comes to running for any kind of political position.

I wouldn't want a poor person representing my country anyway.

I wouldn't want someone who is poor, but there is a pretty big gap between poor and rich.

Someone who is middle class isn't poor.

Originally posted by Surtur
I wouldn't want someone who is poor, but there is a pretty big gap between poor and rich.

Someone who is middle class isn't poor.

Spoiler, they were so bad, Thatcher won 3 terms afterwards.

I'm not a huge Hilary fan, but this politically correct bullshit going on in this country is getting out of control:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-de-blasio-racially-charged-joke-draws-barbs/ar-BBrFhKv?li=BBnb7Kz

Here is the exchange people whined over: Hilary made a joke to a guy saying he had taken a long time to endorse her. The guy says sorry I've been running on "CP" time. Hilary then responds "Cautious politician time, I've been there".

People called this racist, they said CP really stood for colored people and that it was making fun of the stereotype of black people always being late. I've never even heard this stereotype. Isn't this getting a bit ridiculous?

So this is why I don't trust Hilary:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fact-check-clintons-latest-gun-law-broadside-on-sanders/ar-BBrHl5S?li=BBnb7Kz

Any opinions on what the Russians did?

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russian-war-planes-fly-close-u-s-navy-destroyer-n555446

Hilary is a piece of shit. Bill was actually very disliked iirc

But given that she's not a total retard, I'd prefer her to anyone but trump.