General Primary Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Robtard
Linda Tripp secretly recorded Lewinsky at the advice of a literary agent. She was looking to sell a book based off the affair.

What women am I dismissing besides Linda Tripp? You're acting as if thousands of women have already come forward when it's just Linda Tripp claiming the "thousands".

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Hilary bullied, harassed and silenced and threated all the women that came forward and said they were all full of shit. Thats why more did not come forward.

This

Do you have any documented proof of this, or is this just your intuitive speculation.

Are you that lazy you can't just use google to find your own answers to your own questions? Like your inaccurate info you tried to pass off about Eric Garner..you don't even debate anymore you just come and drop off some bs and run.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3383417/Paula-Jones-nearly-brought-Bill-Clinton-allegations-sex-abuse-brands-wife-Hillary-lair-bully-cares-women-all.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3106180/Longtime-Bill-Clinton-sex-assault-accuser-says-Hillary-enabled-happen-again.html

From the first source,

'Paula Jones -who nearly brought down Bill Clinton with allegations of sex abuse - brands wife Hillary a 'liar' and a 'bully' who 'cares nothing about women at all'

😂

I guess in the eyes of the Hilary supporters, Paula Jones is a liar and a fraud because she dared to speak the truth about the Clintons, and Hilarys contempt for her and actual women other then herself while masquerading as some "feminist messiah" is a total lie and shame.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Do you have any documented proof of this, or is this just your intuitive speculation.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Are you that lazy you can't just use google to find your own answers to your own questions? Like your inaccurate info you tried to pass off about Eric Garner..you don't even debate anymore you just come and drop off some bs and run.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3383417/Paula-Jones-nearly-brought-Bill-Clinton-allegations-sex-abuse-brands-wife-Hillary-lair-bully-cares-women-all.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3106180/Longtime-Bill-Clinton-sex-assault-accuser-says-Hillary-enabled-happen-again.html

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
This

You're implying that I'm dismissing women that didnt come forward; who we don't know of, yeah, that's not working.

Maybe just stick with what is actually known?

Bill looking weak says NYT

Makes sense with all the rumors from back channels saying he has early stages of dementia.

What would the race look like without Trump?

FiveThirtyEight does an article on the Trump-less debate, noting, one, there's much more debate, two, sans Trump, Rand Paul potentially steps into the role as the 'interesting outsider for the media to follow,' and would likely do a lot better. Jeb Bush, while still having problems, would be able to do better than he was, Cruz's rough edges show more, and Rubio acts about the same.

And also noted it's pretty hard to judge how the debate will affect the Iowa primary voters- we've entered the Fog of War.

All the while the past two Winners of the Iowa Caucus join Trumps Ralley after their undercard debate.

😂

Sorry Q bad 4 U.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
All the while the past two Winners of the Iowa Caucus join Trumps Ralley after their undercard debate.

😂

Sorry Q bad 4 U.

I don't mind if Trump outperforms these, I'm on Team Democrat. Just because it's good for you doesn't mean it's bad for me.

Heck, Trump's arguably better than Cruz. Cruz has worse policies and is reportedly a gigantic *******.

I will agree with you on that.

It's kinda fascinating, how a lot of outsiders expected the party to turn against Trump, and speculating Cruz might get some insider support to try and fight Trump, and instead they turned on Cruz, because basically "**** that guy." Seems like he's personally pissed off most of the GOP politicians in a way that even being an outsider candidate doesn't come close to.

Originally posted by Q99
It's kinda fascinating, how a lot of outsiders expected the party to turn against Trump, and speculating Cruz might get some insider support to try and fight Trump, and instead they turned on Cruz, because basically "**** that guy." Seems like he's personally pissed off most of the GOP politicians in a way that even being an outsider candidate doesn't come close to.

You hate both but one comes with the added hurt of betrayal.

Originally posted by Q99
It's kinda fascinating, how a lot of outsiders expected the party to turn against Trump, and speculating Cruz might get some insider support to try and fight Trump, and instead they turned on Cruz, because basically "**** that guy." Seems like he's personally pissed off most of the GOP politicians in a way that even being an outsider candidate doesn't come close to.

I think the establishment will try and take Cruz down at any turn and I suspect they would rather have trump more then Cruz.

Ted Cruz was a whiny little ***** in the debate.

He said if he got any more criticism he was going to walk off the stage.

Chris Wallace basically threw him down the stairs as did Kelly.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I think the establishment will try and take Cruz down at any turn and I suspect they would rather have trump more then Cruz.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Ted Cruz was a whiny little ***** in the debate.

He said if he got any more criticism he was going to walk off the stage.

Chris Wallace basically threw him down the stairs as did Kelly.

At this point Cruz should just quit. I'm being serious, he's not meant for the job if he can't handle a bunch of criticism being thrown his way. He thinks it is bad now? What does he think would happen if he actually became president?

I still question his eligibility as well.

McCain was born on a military base to a admiral in the US Navy.

Cruz was born in Canada and his dad was Cuban.

Although his mother was a US citizen, the constitution clearly says natural born.

He was a duel citizen up until 15 months and full fledged Canadian Citizen.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think you're right. With Trump, no one's really sure how serious he is about anything he says, whereas with Cruz, what you see is what you get, and what we're seeing is a narrow minded fool who would probably never compromise on anything.

I agree. Although Trump has changed his positions on things. He will be a moderate in office. A lot of what he says he does for ratings, but ultimately I think he will rock the economy, bring jobs home, be tough on trade and get us good deals to improve our economy. He has always been and still pro single payer, which will appeal to dems as well strengthen our infrastructure. All of his building projects he completed under budget and in half the time.

Personally I don't think he'd be a good president. I'm skeptical of the idea of any president doing much to help the economy (they just don't have that much control over it). I still find it disgusting that he'd antagonize and denigrate entire groups of people (Latinos, Muslims) simply to win the votes of racists and hyper-nationalists. No matter how you look at it, it's scummy politics from a guy who claims to be an anti-politician.