Nihilus and Vitiate vs. Sidious and Yoda

Started by The_Tempest10 pages

Uh, Bane lol. Also a third party who wanted the Sith destroyed. You're going to need something more authoritative.

So you're claiming the Eternal Empire is just another Sith faction?

Nah. Much like the Galactic Empire and Sheev, one doesn't really have a bearing on the other. Vitiate was recognized as a Sith, received Sith training, utilized Sith techniques, and so on.

Would you consider SOR!Revan a Jedi/Sith then since he was recognized as such, was trained as such, and uses said techniques?

Not sure. Revan's a bit more complicated since he's also a student of Jedi training, technique, philosophy, and recognition.

Not to mention having the worst case of multiple personality disorder since Gollum/Smeagol

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Than who?

Sidious. In Sidious vs Vitiate threads you've given the latter the win in the Force round.

Also, lol Valkorion isn't a Sith anymore. Come on man. Bane sought to resurrect the Sith and actively called himself Darth Bane in recognition of him being the only true Sith left. Valkorion is trying to destroy the Sith wholesale.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Not to mention having the worst case of multiple personality disorder since Gollum/Smeagol

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Sidious. In Sidious vs Vitiate threads you've given the latter the win in the Force round.

Also, lol Valkorion isn't a Sith anymore. Come on man. Bane sought to resurrect the Sith and actively called himself Darth Bane in recognition of him being the only true Sith left. Valkorion is trying to destroy the Sith wholesale.

When did I give Vitiate a nod over Sheev in a Force fight?

Nah, he's trying to destroy the "flawed" Sith order he created. Didn't those audio files Ant diligently recovered even address him as the Sith Emperor?

Sidious and vitiate. Sidious as of his DE incarnation takes vitiate down with moderate to high difficulty. Vitiate just can't beat him in terms of the force for a majority. His illusions magic and so one aren't going to be something that Sidious can't handle or resist due to his enormous will power and command of the force. As duelist yoda and Sidious defiantly have it. Even if vitiate was a more competent duelist yod and Sidious still win 10/10. In the force Sidious will be what brings his team to victory as he is the most powerful one here. Yoda while behind is still powerful and can actually defeat nihlus. So vitiate and nihlus are pretty much screwed.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Sidious. In Sidious vs Vitiate threads you've given the latter the win in the Force round.

Also, lol Valkorion isn't a Sith anymore. Come on man. Bane sought to resurrect the Sith and actively called himself Darth Bane in recognition of him being the only true Sith left. Valkorion is trying to destroy the Sith wholesale.

Traya was trying to destroy the Force itself. Are you going to suggest she isn't Sith either?

As for this fight, Prime!Yoda and DE Sidious will solidly win this fight.

No, considering she still considered herself Darth Traya and led a Sith legion. Plus betraying everyone is just her shtick. Valkorion founded a completely separate and competing empire and force using order and is actively attempting to wipe out the Sith.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Traya was trying to destroy the Force itself. Are you going to suggest she isn't Sith either?

As for this fight, Prime!Yoda and DE Sidious will solidly win this fight.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
No, considering she still considered herself Darth Traya and led a Sith legion. Plus betraying everyone is just her shtick. Valkorion founded a completely separate and competing empire and force using order and is actively attempting to wipe out the Sith.

And yet trying to destroy the Force is completely against all Sith teachings, and would effectively wipe out the Sith. Trying to wipe out the Sith doesn't mean you are no longer a Sith. If your argument is that Vitiate isn't a Sith because he no longer identifies as Sith...well a picture is worth a thousand words.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
And yet trying to destroy the Force is completely against all Sith teachings, and would effectively wipe out the Sith. Trying to wipe out the Sith doesn't mean you are no longer a Sith. If your argument is that Vitiate isn't a Sith because he no longer identifies as Sith...well a picture is worth a thousand words.

Dude, like I said she was still a Sith, still considered herself a Sith, outright says shes a Sith, still worked with the Sith and still held and advocated very Sith-like principles. And effectively wiping out the Sith isn't actually wiping them out. She wanted to destroy the Trayas Sith because of the threat of their teachings but the Twu Sith still lived and destroying the Force wasn't about destroying the Sith directly.

Vitiate completely broke away from the Sith. There is absolutely nothing tying him to the order anymore. He is no more a Sith than Anakin was on his death bed. He turned his back on the order no less completely.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Dude, like I said she was still a Sith, still considered herself a Sith, outright says shes a Sith, still worked with the Sith and still held and advocated very Sith-like principles. And effectively wiping out the Sith isn't actually wiping them out. She wanted to destroy the Trayas Sith because of the threat of their teachings but the Twu Sith still lived and destroying the Force wasn't about destroying the Sith directly.

So you're saying Kreia while she was traveling with the Exile wasn't a Sith because she called herself Kreia and not Traya. False.


Vitiate completely broke away from the Sith. There is absolutely nothing tying him to the order anymore. He is no more a Sith than Anakin was on his death bed. He turned his back on the order no less completely.

So was Kreia during most of KOTOR II. Doesn't mean she wasn't a Sith.

Valkorion and Nihilus take this easily.
When I'll see Yoda possessing half of the power Nihilus has; maybe I'll reconsider.
(Thread Necromancy for you guys)

Team 1.

Yoda and Sidious ROFL STOMP

Team 1

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Yoda and Sidious ROFL STOMP

Nihilus could just well Force-grip Yoda and throw him out of the planet's orbit or apply him a DBZ Force-push.
Or better; Nihilus Hungers them both instantly. And Valkorion slaps Nihilus's head,
"We weren't supposed to eat them, stoopa!"