Nihilus and Vitiate vs. Sidious and Yoda

Originally posted by Nai
The Jedi who were drained simultaneously together with the Force using population of the planet most certainly had - even individually.

See my edit.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Which is the key, it's an impressive display in terms of the quantity of energy drained, but considering that he only had to overcome the middling defences of each individual Jedi on the planet, it hardly proves he can overwhelm the likes of Yoda and Sidious.

100 Jedi's defences = "middling".

Yeah, ok. 😆

Gosh that stupid huh?

I guess you are. Dang, sorry man.

Ouch, "I know you are but what am I" sick burn man.

Arguing that draining a 100 fodder Jedi means you can drain Yoda, is like saying Vitiate can TP Revan because of the 8,000 on Nathema. But 300 years later, with the aid of Dread Masters no less, proved otherwise.

AP is right tbh.

Nihilus doesn't need to drain Yoda, he can just throw him out of orbit with the Force.

Originally posted by Trocity
Nihilus doesn't need to drain Yoda, he can just throw him out of orbit with the Force.

Ayy LMAO.

Sidious and Yoda take it.

Of course they can.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Ouch, "I know you are but what am I" sick burn man.

Be fair here B, there's no way I could follow up on such a legendary burn as "you're stupid". I'm only human.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Which is the key, it's an impressive display in terms of the quantity of energy drained, but considering that he only had to overcome the middling defences of each individual Jedi on the planet, it hardly proves he can overwhelm the likes of Yoda and Sidious.

Originally posted by Nai
The "upper limit" of the Drain, as far as we've seen, is a planet hosting a species of Force users and 100+ Jedi. Somehow I fail to see how Sidious are "well beyond" that accumulation of force power. And there is still no defense against the technique.

But even assuming that the last sentence is not true and Sidious and Yoda have their ways to resist that drain or defend themselves against it, what do they do when Vitiate fires some area effect abilities at them at the same time?

While Sidious and Yoda might be good challengers for Vitiate and Nihilus, or even capable of defeating them individually (which could be argued), I really don't see them doing any good against two beings who have some devastating force attacks up their sleeves that can affect rather large areas and have sucessfully been used against other Force users.

The only way I see Sidious and Yoda winning is by either closing into melee combat rather fast (where they should have the upper hand).

Originally posted by Nephthys
100 Jedi's defences = "middling".

If their defenses were a coordinated effort where the melded their power to stop their foe, you may have had a point there. But no, we're talking about 100 individual Jedi who were hit by surprise and had no idea what was killing them.

Who is this freedon nadd ?

A fart smeller, err I mean a smart feller ofc.

Found him on space battles taking on the Sheevites.

Nihilus and Valk. Palpatine never really did anything impressive pre DE and in DE his Byss feat was similar to King Ommins DS manipulations on Onderon barring Force storm. However considering that Nadd knew that tech Ommin knowing it isn't unlikely. Nihilus and Valk>Ommin.