Superman vs Thor: fist fight

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
**** no I'm not doing that stupid shit. Never have, likely never will. Now go ahead and beat your bird chest like you won something while I 😂

So you're terrified to debate on your own instead of have people to blow while you regurgitate their arguments because you can't debate for yourself.

OK, we'll change the stakes. If I lose I'm banned for a month. You lose, all you have to do is One: stay out of Superman debates and Two: change your status to "Delta Beat Me." Both for a period of one month.

You game, or you too horrified at the concept of actually debating, and on your own, instead of this exercise in mental gymnastics to convince yourself you've won anything?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Considering the topic is for a H2H fight, and we don't actually see much fighting(presumably it's all off-panel) and the fight ends with them being divebombs to the ground, which isn't AO punching or kicking or elbowing or kneeing, I have a hard time seeing how this isn't disqualified. We don't know how much actual fighting there was, we don't know how much the divebomb played a role. It's not nitpicking.

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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So you completely throw this showing out of the way and fully accept Abhi's future Gladz vs Thor showing and his encounter with Ultimus(Demon Druid)? Even though Gladz used flight with his initial flying punch and even before that he used flying debris as distraction? Even though Ultimus used blasts to initially take Thor down and more blasts to set him up for the haymaker? And btw contrary to what Abhi is portraying, Ultimus is not a weak character. He is a 3000 yr old Kree Eternal. The only survivor of his kind. His Cap showing did not actually take out Ultimus. But that's Abhi for you.
You accept his showings and completely have no qualms judging by your silence when he showed them, but you are up in arms with the way AO killed Clark?

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Huh? I didn't say anything about those because I only skimmed over 'em. I only said anything about the AO example because you asked me directly.

Originally posted by Delta1938
So you're terrified to debate on your own instead of have people to blow while you regurgitate their arguments because you can't debate for yourself.

OK, we'll change the stakes. If I lose I'm banned for a month. You lose, all you have to do is One: stay out of Superman debates and Two: change your status to "Delta Beat Me." Both for a period of one month.

You game, or you too horrified at the concept of actually debating, and on your own, instead of this exercise in mental gymnastics to convince yourself you've won anything?

There is no "we" you freak. The only thing I'm interested in is the topic at hand. You can stick your childish taunts the same dark, moist place your pulled your nerdy challenges from. And since you don't have any rebuttal as to which herald has beaten Superman or that Superman has not been depicted as fighting any better in comics after his training, my work here is done. It's like the DC editors were trying to appease the fanboys who wanted Superman to have formal combat training so you could function better on battle boards. 😕

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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So you completely throw this showing out of the way and fully accept Abhi's future Gladz vs Thor showing and his encounter with Ultimus(Demon Druid)? Even though Gladz used flight with his initial flying punch and even before that he used flying debris as distraction? Even though Ultimus used blasts to initially take Thor down and more blasts to set him up for the haymaker? And btw contrary to what Abhi is portraying, Ultimus is not a weak character. He is a 3000 yr old Kree Eternal. The only survivor of his kind. His Cap showing did not actually take out Ultimus. But that's Abhi for you.
You accept his showings and completely have no qualms judging by your silence when he showed them, but you are up in arms with the way AO killed Clark? I mean with how your treating Clark's fight, might as well throw Thor's showing out the window..

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All that is par for the course. The bias in their debating practices practically permeates through the screen. We know what Abby is, but delta wing has actually convinced himself he's some reasonable, impartial poster who just happens to get caught up in every pro Superman side of every Superman debate. Yeah, right.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Proof? No one is denying that he was taken out by a future bloodlusted Gladz while holding back and protecting an innocent... Sigh...

You still haven't explained how this is relevant?

Dark was right. You are so far gone in your Supes worship that you are blind to anything in front of you if it means that it puts him in any form of bad light. Read the comic ffs...

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Still haven't got any idea to WTF are you talking about? Good, good.

I thought you are the DC expert here. It was later revealed that Plas survived after being crushed. He lived on for 3000 yrs in scattered pieces across the Atlantic.

Balder was still alive using Thor's strength vs Seth 2 issues from his battle with Grog. This Loki Liesmith over here. You are awful at this...

Yeah, I forgot the chronology.

Its still nothing special except Thor breaking the chains after a long struggle. Grog was after all class 50 or such. Even at half power Thor should be stronger than him.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
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Other examples...

Konvict merked him with one punch. He was stunned/flash ko'd for a few moments lying on the ground with his eyes closed.

Male Cheetah overpowered him and made him pass out Iirc..

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In Cheetah's case, Circe's forcefield had dulled his powers.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not true. Are you lying or misinformed? Tbh, I don't know which is worse because you get uppity if someone forgets what color Superman's shoes were in a comic.

Context =/= You not liking something and claiming it's invalid. If you don't think Superman has ever lost a fist fight with a herald level being why even bother entering threads like this?

There's literally scans about a page ago of the Annointed One killing him btw.

If you know an instance, let me know.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So you completely throw this showing out of the way and fully accept Abhi's future Gladz vs Thor showing and his encounter with Ultimus(Demon Druid)? Even though Gladz used flight with his initial flying punch and even before that he used flying debris as distraction? Even though Ultimus used blasts to initially take Thor down and more blasts to set him up for the haymaker? And btw contrary to what Abhi is portraying, Ultimus is not a weak character. He is a 3000 yr old Kree Eternal. The only survivor of his kind. His Cap showing did not actually take out Ultimus. But that's Abhi for you.
You accept his showings and completely have no qualms judging by your silence when he showed them, but you are up in arms with the way AO killed Clark? I mean with how your treating Clark's fight, might as well throw Thor's showing out the window..

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"Flying power"?

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, such butthurt can only come from you.

"Flying power"?

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Konvict "took him by surprise", Abby? What kind of cockameme excuse is that?? You see, this is the apologist nonsense you are known for. I mean is he slow or stupid? Why are these not excuses for any other character except Superman? Balls in your court.

No, Konvikt did take him by surprise. Superman never expected to be hit that hard.

And keep your balls out of his court (or anything else of his) please.

Originally posted by -Pr-
No, Konvikt did take him by surprise. Superman never expected to be hit that hard.

And keep your balls out of his court (or anything else of his) please.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Apparently u don't get it. 🙁

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Konvict "took him by surprise", Abby? What kind of cockameme excuse is that?? You see, this is the apologist nonsense you are known for. I mean is he slow or stupid? Why are these not excuses for any other character except Superman? Balls in your court.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Are you saying he slugged him by surprise or he was surprised he got hit that hard?

There was context to the Hulk and Sampson fight though. None with the Konvikt showing. Don't see anything wrong with the showing anyways. Konvikt was a beast and Superman did well when Konvikt amped up.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, right.
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Surprised he was hit that hard. Samson took out Hulk once the same way.

Oh and Male Cheetah did surprise Clark too, but can u point out how Circe's forcefield "dulled his powers"?

Originally posted by carver9
There was context to the Hulk and Sampson fight though. None with the Konvikt showing. Don't see anything wrong with the showing anyways. Konvikt was a beast and Superman did well when Konvikt amped up.

Konvikt was a beast.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
[B]Read my exchange with Delta and then maybe u'll get it. Maybe...

Why don't you try explaining how Thor held back his strength and durability?

Oh and Male Cheetah did surprise Clark too, but can u point out how Circe's forcefield "dulled his powers"?

Simple, read the comic.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yEMJgvIdYn8/U7a4fSWPfcI/AAAAAAAABQQ/d1ivXA7sP3c/s1600/wonder+woman_174_12+Superman_Lyta_Cheetah.jpg

Jimenez later clarified on CBR that the shield was there to dull his powers.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=14615457&highlight=Jimenez+cheetah+userid%3A133437#post14615457

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why don't you try explaining how Thor held back his strength and durability?

Simple, read the comic.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yEMJgvIdYn8/U7a4fSWPfcI/AAAAAAAABQQ/d1ivXA7sP3c/s1600/wonder+woman_174_12+Superman_Lyta_Cheetah.jpg

Jimenez later clarified on CBR that the shield was there to dull his powers.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=14615457&highlight=Jimenez+cheetah+userid%3A133437#post14615457

The same why Superman holds back his strength and durability.

Originally posted by -Pr-
No, Konvikt did take him by surprise. Superman never expected to be hit that hard.

And keep your balls out of his court (or anything else of his) please.

The question is, what difference does that make? His KO is still 100% valid. So a herald BEAT Superman by KHTFO.

Originally posted by carver9
There was context to the Hulk and Sampson fight though. None with the Konvikt showing. Don't see anything wrong with the showing anyways. Konvikt was a beast and Superman did well when Konvikt amped up.

There is nothing wrong with the showing and it counts as a loss for Superman. Again, what happened to Superman's super intellect, durability and speed? Shouldn't he have saw the punch in slow motion? 😱

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
The same why Superman holds back his strength and durability.

In fact he lost his powers completely when he had amnesia and regained them when he got his memories back in Action Comics 586.

He remained depowered for one year because he didn't want them in 52.

As soon as he wanted his powers back, they were back.

Thor doesn't works like that. Never has.